Yeah they wisely entrusted ZF to design the 8HP and seem to have it dailed in nicely now. FCA has traditionally had a lot of trouble with integrating 8 and 9 speed transmissions in terms of their calibration strategy, though. I rented a cherokee with one once, it was god awful. Bonking shifts all over, skipping gears…

Are you living in 2005?  The 8 speed transmission in the Ram is one of the highest rated transmissions in the market... The interior BLOWS AWAY any offering from Ford or GM too. 

Mostly because their headlights aren’t drilling a hole through my eyes via being rear view mirror height.

Hopefully Chevy skips the huge horsepower off roader that will likely never go off road trend and just put out an full time AWD drag racing truck.

There’s gonna be so many insanely destructive leaving-a-parking-lot crashes of these things where I live. 700+ horsepower sent through the rear wheels with no weight over the rear axle meets shitty roads, snow, and bros. Can’t wait. 

These truck wars are starting to feel like the German executive sedan market around a decade ago, when they all feigned panic about the future (or were just really cash flush) and threw V8 and V10 engines in all of their cars for the thrill of it.

I’m sure they used trained drivers of some variety. I did high-mileage testing on pre-production fords one summer in college (500 miles a night 4 nights a week, I started on Mustangs and finished on Mazda 6's - this was back when that partnership was still a thing), and they let us shmucks to all the boring highway…

Someone took one through Moab...

Yep. However, I will also say that I’ve seen stock wranglers do perfectly fine on that trail. So at least the wrangler really is a legitimate trail machine off the showroom floor. Just due to the nature of the trail - I don’t think a Ford Raptor would stand much of a chance of making it through. But I the raptor is…

I wonder if they just asked some guys sitting around the office if they wanted to hit the Rubicon in a pre-production car. Offroading experience not necessary. lol

The wording is odd, but I think those are 3 different Broncos. I don’t think the 4 door with the Sasquatch is the same 4 door with the manual. 

I honestly think I could probably hustle a Subaru Forester through with some moderate rock stacking - and lots and lots of body damage. But I do think you could bash away at it and make it end to end. Something really small like a forester could squeeze through I think in enough of the hardest spots to probably get…

I mean, the Trail Rated badge doesn’t say how much Jeep you’ll have left at the other end of the trail. xD

New life goal: Make my smart fortwo do the Rubicon Trail.

If I had unlimited $$ I’d try it with a Cayenne Turbo just for fun.

Toyota also did the Rubicon in a 4Runner in 2010ish - before placing 2nd in the Baja 1000 stock mini class with the same vehicle. But they did add sliders IIRC and maybe different tires. The bronco should breeze through I’d think. It should be far better in the rocks than a 4Runner. I’ve been through a few times in my…

Justin I believe there has been a misunderstanding here. Trail Rated on modern Jeeps simply mean it will safely navigate shopping center parking lots and the occasional drive over a curb or parking block. 

Several years ago, I flew into Philadelphia on business. One of my reps picked me up at the curb.

I remember the early noughties when Ford did the Mondeo ST220 estate and saloon cars. 3.0 V6, 226bhp.