Church is a church is a church. They prey on the weak-minded who need purpose in an uncaring universe.

Except all those points I made? Looks like I upset a snowflake. Go ahead, take your ball and go home.

Whatever excuse you want. You have an opinion. I disagree. I am at work and am at the moment getting too busy to waste time dicking about here with you and those absurdly long posts. C’est la vie.

tl;dr False equivalency and don’t really care to bother continuing. You are entitled to your opinions.

Aw, did my words hurt you? Give me a fucking break. Saying “fuck” doesn’t make me violent you twit. And yea, religion does need to go - not people, not culture, just religion. It needs to go bad! Look at how much damage it does even when not used in an active crusade - you win up with gay conversion therapy and law…

religious justifications offered

And you are a violent, narrow-minded asshole.

As stated, that is my opinion based on life experience and history as a whole. Doesn’t mean it is a dogma. Just a very strong opinion.

Whoa bud, it isn’t dogma because no one has come down from the mountain and told me it was true. My opinion is that religion is poison. I got here by looking at evidence and concluding this was what I believed as concerns religion. I do not have an Imam telling me that is incontrovertibly true. On the contrary, I do…

Eh. Hands full? Only if I wish to respond. Opting out of more than a few of these posts where people just don’t get my point. C’est la vie.

I get what you are saying, but I felt like making a valid point to the OP. The people did a good thing, not the religion. Religion isn’t peaceful, the people who practice it…

Atheists are dogmatic? Oh do tell! And if you can’t see why religion is absolute poison for humanity, you might want to... shit, I don’t even know. It is so obvious, how people aren’t atheists befuddles me.

Deists vs Christians? I don’t see that as an exception. Just believers in a god vs entrenched clergy who they had issues with.

tl;dr I think you missed my point and I am not in the mood to endlessly reiterate.

Hitler is debatable. His religious views were murky at best. And Mao did not persecute/execute religious people. Those who died under his regime did not die because of their religion. Can’t attest to Khmer Rouge - got to read up on that. And does this really compare to the entire remainder of human history where…

And yet, how many religions have dogma (all) vs just secular humanists or atheists? See the issue? I don’t declare war on an opposing group because some figment of my imagination told me so at the cost of hundreds... or thousands ... or millions of lives. Religion has been catastrophic for humanity and continues to…

Hitler was is contested. At the least, he was a nihilistic piece of shit who persecuted a religious group. Lenin/Stalin/Mao were all Communists, so it isn’t shocking they persecuted all religions, but they didn’t do it in the name of atheism specifically in and of itself, they did it in the name of Communism. That…

IP? It isn’t. Culture isn’t IP. Nice try though! And hard work? No one is stealing their work and re-selling it, so that moot. And not everyone can work with the artists who inspired them. That is reality. And it isn’t exploitation. They aren’t the ones doing the work making, branding, selling, etc. Again, culture…

You can’t do that with humanism, so you are incorrect.

I clearly stated they were good people who did a good thing - but that doesn’t relate to the original comment though, which wanted to attribute this goodness to the religion and not said people.

Aw, one whole example in the last 10,000 years of human history. Good work.