They shouldn’t be forced to stand at attention for an anthem either. How is that lost on you?

classic co-optation strategy by the NFL: attempt to buy the players off with “almost $100 million” (actually $11 million less) of what would amounts to $250k in tax write-offs for each owner over eight years, all while giving players a “place at the table” that would be basically symbolic.

Nobody has a right to protest at work and stay employed.

Nobody has the right to make another US citizens stand for the National Anthem or rend any honors to the flag, per the US Supreme Court in WV State Board of Education v. Barnette. In what country do you live?

The owners could do some political lobbying with other affluent friends to help the-hahahahaha sorry, I couldn’t finish that hypothetical without laughing at how much of a pipedream it is.

No, actually everyone has a right to protest at work. However, most of us dont have the leverage or power to ever consider it.

Holy shit the NFL is stupid. First of all, the players aren’t protesting the NFL’s not giving enough money to certain charities. The players aren’t protesting the NFL AT ALL. So offering money to charities as a way to stop protests that aren’t really about that feels kind of sleazy and manipulative (and by the way, if…

God, he’s even more persuasive than I could have imagined.

This is bullshit on so many levels. *Cynical* is a very generous way of putting it and shows that the owners neither understand nor care to understand WHY the players are actually protesting. If they want to pledge $100MM to organizations that work against police brutality and funds for minorities who are not given…

Eh. He won white people across the board, and white people in this country aren’t the only poor people.

I disagree. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

You’re right.

I can see that. My apologies.

You’re right, my bad. I guess the image of the evangelical leaders who held their press conference in support of him a few weeks ago is stuck in my head. All of the images of women holding him up is really discouraging.

Whoa whoa whoa, hold up there. Non-white voters (both dem/republican, of ALL racial minorities) are only pulling about 8% support for Roy Moore. The state’s electorate is 79% white. Are you seriously trying to claim that black women will help vote Roy fucking Moore into office? Just because they found one black woman…

Well is a premade meme, so maybe not discredit but definitely deflect. Your need to respond to mangoselassie’s post with “facts about society as a whole” instead of addressing the specific point the poster made is essence of “whataboutism”, because you decided their post needed some kind of adjunct or footnote when it…

I get your point, but I’m saying in this situation you’ll find far, far, far more of those comments coming from certain demographics (though I’m sure he’ll do even better with white men than white women), and I don’t think it’s fair to say “hey, this isn’t a white women problem” when here, compared to nonwhite women,…

okay. “larger issues” are important, but the devil is also in the details.

Will you find a few nonwhite women who vote for the dude? Sure. Will he get even double digits among them? Nope. Will he win more than 50% of white women? Yes. I’m pretty comfortable letting that statement stand as is.

Matt Lauer’s firing was about as expected as Donald Trump’s incompetence. Figuring out who sexually harasses women isn’t very difficult to predict. Lauer consistently gave Trump and O’Reilly a pass on their shitty behavior while grilling HRC about emails and telling her to keep her answers brief.