As they used to say at the conclusion of Underdog, looks like this is the end. To the crusher with it. ND.

No one will care that it eats up bed space, these are used like most 4 door trucks - as commuters. That being said, I do see them trailering a lot and the extra range will make them darn near usable. If you bought a $120,000 cyberbeast to pull your $300,000 G25 Nautique Paragon, then $16,000 isn’t going to hurt so bad…

The biggest difference in pay is that many European and Asian countries present a net salary to employees, with all the benefits bundled. In the US, we get offered a gross salary, which looks great at first glance, but after benefits are subtracted (and taxes), it’s not as high as you’d think.

This. The US is the best place in the world to live if you can afford it. It gets markedly shittier the less able to afford it you are, right up to arresting the homeless.

It still seems high, though. The big thing that sticks out to me is the range.

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F*&$#

Ram and Jeep. Even Stellantis can’t lose money selling $80,000 Jeep Rubicons.

Stellantis will be renamed RAM.

Exactly, why did they expect people to finally want small cars just because they are EVs? Small EVs are what most people need but not what they want.

EVs with hater pipes. I’m here for this.

It is surprising to GM, Honda, Nissan, and to a lesser extent Toyota (who will plug-in hybrid everything and EV practically nothing) who all decided that consumers who want EVs wanted extremely small efficient vehicles and the only number that mattered was range. The Model Y and it’s imitators demonstrated that…

Oh god. Don’t give them any ideas. 

Trucks dominate the ICE market.  Of the top 10 selling cars in the nation, trucks hold 5 of the spots, cars have 3, and SUV’s have 2.

Range is less of an issue than recharging speed and infrastructure (for longer trips). I can charge, overnight, at home, and that would work fine, 330-340 days a year. It’s those 15-25 other days that create the huge psychological hurdle, where I’m trying to go 200+ miles in one day.

Need and want are 2 different things.  Realistically MOST people, unless you have a monster commute, could be perfectly fine with 50 to 100 mile range, and charging at home.  That said the real answer is what others have said already which is 300 miles/charge, which is roughly what an ICE car can get on a tank.  Most…

If it’s my main vehicle, I would say 250 miles. Not a necessity but I a preference. I very rarely drive that far in a year. For a secondary car, 130 miles like the new fiat 500e is plentiful.

300 miles is more than I honestly NEED for day-to-day use but it’s a nice, neat psychological target. Where I live there are occasional weekends trips to the next big town (Tampa) or the even rarer (thankfully) need to get out of the path of a hurricane. 300 miles would do that (round trip). Even though I know I could…

Realistically, with my current lifestyle, I could probably make a first gen Leaf work even with the batteries being degraded. Although I’d like at least 200 if I forget to plug it in.

I also remember him advising everyone to sell their shares of Stark Industries as well!

I remember when he made the horrible call of upgrading Bluth Company stock to Don’t Buy.  What a schmuck.