xmanx59
Xmanx59
xmanx59

No problem I completely understand I have been in your shoes many times. You loose a lot of the nuance of the debate in a text format. Sometimes we can read things into the written word that we would dismiss standing face to face due to body language or facial expressions. Sadly though this probably the only way you

I will certainly grant you that. I think you and I are very close to in our thoughts on the issue I think our biggest point of contention is how much blame to assign where. I feel more blame should be placed on crew and the people that supported them than the airlines itself. Could the airline have taken more

Ok so you fly in a high risk fly zone why? Why is it a futile discussion you and I have different ideas that we debating on a forum. Now going back to what you said even if they captured a Ukrainian system they have to be taught or some with knowledge of how the systems works has to operate it. As far as flying in a

Wrong analogy it was not considered war zone above 33,000 feet. Because it takes a very sophisticated system to shoot down an airliner at or above that altitude. Normally those type of systems are tightly controlled by a nations military. Most of the time a nation does not want to be responsible for shooting down a

The Airline is not at fault for being shot down that is a stupid assertion. That is like saying its your fault for being robbed because you were carrying money.

I read your quote and you still did not address my accusation you place more blame on the airlines than the responsible party operating the SAM sight.

Ask the Airlines this would not have even been discussed if nothing happened. They would have continued to do business as usual. The problem with your argument is you are trying to put the blame on the airline or aviation in general and it user of the SAM system that's at fault.

Maybe but it costs more to fly around the restricted airspace. Airlines run on razor thin margins now as it is. I guess the airlines felt the risk was small enough to keep flying though the area.

The FAA has been in an awkward position since the CAA and CAB was disbanded. The FAA is tasked with both the promotion of aviation and the safety of aviation and sometime those ideas work counter to each other.

Before the shoot down the subscribed altitude of no lower that 33,000 feet was prudent since it takes a SAM system to take down an aircraft that high. Most likely the though was no one was stupid enough to take down a civilian airliner. I guess the Russians or Ukrainian Separatists proved that wrong. Every civilian

That's because politicians severely limited what the military was allowed to do. If they were taken off the leash we would have new allies like Germany and Japan at the end of WWII.

What? are you still talking, your rant above is so far off topic. This article was about smaller US Carriers.

Ahhh haha thank you you proved my point if that is all you have no insight, no thought provoking words you are an empty chair. Next time you comment try to have something to add to the conversation.

Same as your not biased and completely rational about homeless people. Your point really makes no sense this is a discussion forum where we really are just writing out our opinions. I was just pointing out that by your comments you have had little to no interaction with the DOD and have no experience to form an

You really don't have any idea how the world works do you?

If Nukes are used its all a moot point there will be nothing left of either side. That is probably a very good reason they will never be used. Your assertion that the fleet would be nuked is wildly inaccurate at best.

So you have a crystal ball and can see the future?

I cant speak about a V-22 but I was a Chinook crew chief the rotors are physically linked and turn at the same speed the only way they turn at different speeds is if you had a serious failure and followed closely by quick fall to the ground.

I have seen a Chinook out of CG once by loading a 105 on the ramp hinge because we were in a hurry. That did not work so well since the nose took off the tail not so much.

I have auto-rotated several times in a Chinook several time the same bolts that hold the drive shaft together during normal flights are the same bolts that hold the drive shafts together during an auto-rotation.