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Agreed.  For the money they start at (especially BRZ), I picked up a 2017 Jaguar XE with a supercharged V6 that’s a much nicer car and at least as good a handler (to say nothing of the much greater power).  I actually looked at the 86/BRZ, but it didn’t make my shortlist when there are so many other good cars out

So, I have actually seen and ridden in a Mach E prototype. It’s a damned good looking car and doesn’t scream EV at the top of its lungs. Pricing will probably be competitive with Model 3, judging from what’s been released so far, and that’s not a rarefied segment.

In v6 spec, Challenger will do an honest 30 mpg highway.  The one I rented this summer and drove from Denver to Detroit in did 32 running I-80 at 75-80 mph.  

“Anyway, no, it’s not eat the rich, but rather a comment on the two tiered justice systems, privileges, etc., that is slowly consuming our world.”

Give it 10 more years. The industry has to keep changing the shape so they have something new and exciting to market. Look at the Mustang Mach-E and the Jaguar I-Pace. Both are incredibly lovely to look at in person (yes, I’ve seen and ridden in a Mach-E prototype-looks fantastic, certainly better in person, and it

I’m guessing it’s some variation of “eat the rich.” And yeah, there’s a lot that the rich get away with that middle classes don’t, and there’s a lot the middle classes get away with that the working classes and poor don’t.

In my family, the “one-family” Fairmont meant Grandma, then two different uncles, another uncle and myself that learned to drive on it, and ultimately my parents before dad sold it on.  

“This is just normal rich-guy CEO stuff, we can all be assured.”

“Oh, and pickup trucks should only seat three people.”

I’ve had a few rentals with various warning lights aglow with apparently no concern from the rental lot minders-low tire pressure warnings, maintenance due/oil change due minders, that sort of thing. This summer, I had a rental from Enterprise that, upon collecting it, had a “oil change due” notice in the center

Good point that I forgot to mention. We were doing 80 mph, give or take, and still did almost 32 mpg average. And yeah, that engine had plenty of power, enough so that I got it to fishtail pretty easily when I goosed it pulling out from a gas station.

He probably told me, but I’m afraid I don’t recall.  He seemed pretty happy with the numbers, though, as he’s a numbers guy.  

I have a buddy in Oregon that bought one of these a year or so ago. He absolutely loves it.

Had a Challenger as a rental this summer, and did 20 hours straight from Denver to Detroit in it. It’s a big car. It’s smooth and easy to drive, but there’s no mistaking it for a big car. I found the seats comfortable enough for the long long drive. Even with just the V6 it still had plenty of power. Seemed like it’d

Right, and this is why Europeans have traditionally wanted efficient options. Now that SUVs and crossovers, at least on paper and in government testing, are as efficient as midsized sedans were a decade ago, people are opting for more space and power. If you disrupt the trends on which you, as a planner, have made

Seemed like a genuine sentiment with a bit of lighthearted banter to me.  Like, I don’t get why it’s being reported here as a troll or a jab.  The AN article from which 4th Gear was sourced didn’t give me the impression it was a troll or a jab.  

Once again the shitshow that is Europe is fucking up our cars for us. First it was hood ornaments to comply with their pedestrian safety requirements. Now it’s going to be performance variants to comply with CO2 requirements.

Another old trope that’s mostly not true, as there was less than 20 percent part commonality. Even then, it was skeletal pieces, engine blocks, and the MTX-75 manual transmission. Body, suspension, interior, controls, and pretty much the entire upper half of the engines were Jag.

Not that he was bought with a $2000 watch. Rather, this stuff is so commonplace that anyone at that level that someone else at that (or a higher) level wants to take down can always find material with which to do it. It’s so commonplace it’s not even seen as corruption or even questionable at that level. The

So I just bought a 2017 Jaguar XE, and I’m rapidly discovering the beauty and frustration of door pull design. It has this two-tier design which is pretty and seems reasonable...