Not like Sikorsky’s export business could get any worse.

It’s been upgraded to engage surface targets. It’s still limited to the freeboard of where it’s mounted. On a carrier that’s about 60 feet off the water.

Any use of fighter-bombers/strike aircraft in this scenario would be as a retaliatory strike as a shore missile battery or similar would have sent its first salvo long before those aircraft could do anything about it. It’s notoriously difficult to anticipate a first strike. I know if I were an adversary nation like…

They’ll never do it. At this point Taiwan’s population is too diametrically opposed to China’s. Hong Kong was tough enough (some will argue that they still haven’t successfully integrated it), and that was a peaceful transference to an autonomous region. Additionally, the ROC’s military is not focused on repelling a…

You bring up a good point about the SAM threat. Ultimately, the FAC threat isn’t something that can really be expected from Iran if they’re in the midst of war. It’ll be literally be part of the opening assault. As such, it’s likely that those long range SAM threats (S-300) will be there to protect that swarm for as…

“To push 60 knots with all that gear on board you’ve got to be talking something like 2000-3000hp.”

The first SWARMEX was circa 2000/2001, and were driven by wargaming at NWC before that. Sea Slice was a tech evaluation platform for JHSV and LCS. ONR used to it justify to the program office that the “come as you are concept” was feasible (obviously it wasn’t, although it seemed to work for JHSV). In essence, it…

So the MQ-8 is supposed to fill the “persistent detection” requirement for LCS as it can stay aloft for a lot longer than any other asset. IF (and that’s a big if) the Navy were to certify the MQ-8 to drop WCMD (or similar) than yes I think it would work. Otherwise, you’re back to the same issue of how quickly can I…

The C802 and C704 are both radar homing. I’m guessing initial guidance is done via GPS/INS.

This is a clone of the hull nothing else. Look at the inside of those things. They’re spartan like. Canoes have more amenities. Michael Peter’s Yacht Designs are a good analagous. He designs em and then they’re copied very cheaply.

“Especially when weapon systems are developed for the as-current doctrine of 15 years ago and never go IOC with all the capabilities that were pitched to congress anywhere in the current plan?”

“ And putting his vulnerable LCSs in the path of 40+ rocket armed speedboats is not likely going to be the COA he or the Admiral is going to choose if that’s the most likely enemy COA.”

We were failing miserably at the SWARMEX’s long before the LCS was even a glimmer in contractors eyes. So don’t pull a “the engagement scenario was setup to tie Blue’s hands” BS. There were no politics involved at that point, and in times of peace (when a swarm attack would be employed) the US Navy’s hands are very…

Then you KNOW exactly where the LCS fits into the Navy doctrine. Why one earth are you trying to argue with me about it?

Nasr-1 is a C704 clone not a C701. It has a 135kg warhead (compared to the Noor 160kg warhead) and a 35 km range. It has nothing in common with a Griffin. Try again.

It’s clear you haven’t the slightest idea what you’re talking about it. Leave the doctrine development and planning to folks that know the numbers.

“The only FACs attacking us in the Suez itself are Egyptian. Bab-el-Mandeb at the other end of the Red Sea is an issue for small boat attacks but not so much FACs.”

“You aren’t going to see a 40+ boat FAC swarm and you can’t shoot C802s from a bog hammer.”

It’s a modern day version of the radar picket. The swarm picket.

This is the exact threat that the US Navy is trying to counter. Swarms of these Iranian Fast Attack Craft (FAC). They’re based on a smuggled Bladerunner 51. The fastest production boat in the world. They carry a pair of C802 clones called Noor Missiles (there’s your 200km threat range). The SWARMEX exercises basically…