Donner's had plenty of gee whizery.

That's one of the few parts of the movie I unabashedly loved. It reflects the illustration style of Superman's '30s roots, Nazi propaganda and the concept of a Master Race (which is so central to Zod's philosophy), comic book-type visual storytelling, classical sculpture, and the film's title itself, while being…

Dude, Batman totally danced in DKR.

He did fuck up Watchmen, but I sense way more dedication and enthusiasm on his part in that movie. Man of Steel felt like him saying "Well, my eccentric passion project tanked, guess it's time to pay the Generic Action Movie Piper."

"But I don't argue that it's a great movie because it's obvious to me that many people responded differently than I did"

There's no Kryptonite in this one. Also, presenting Batman as a more measured, mature take on superheros is disingenuous because it ignores the massive contrivance of him not dying dozens of times when he obviously should, despite his much ballyhooed status as a mere human. Not that there's anything wrong with that,…

I feel like you're taking this personally, Alien Jesus. One can only speculate as to why.

What you're missing is that Superman doesn't see his own death as the ultimate risk. He sees other innocent people's deaths as the ultimate risk. That's how he can still be an interesting character, despite being invincible: even with all those powers, he can't save everyone. He has to triage, and doing so is torment…

Not being an origin story doesn't mean it has to be a sequel. It could just start with Superman in Metropolis. Also, from interviews, it sounds like Snyder had lots of influence on the story.

"everyone loves or at least respects the ending scenes."

Well, Batman almost killed his parents' murderer in the movie. But good point.

The Fleischer cartoons, for me.

Aw man, the bullet-eye was the best part of that movie! Deflecting bullets is, like, Superman's thing.

Yeah, but in the Brandon Routh one, it was still subtext. Henry Cavill is sitting in a church, in front of a stained glass window of Jesus, asking a priest for advice. In the moment, I actually thought it was pretty ballsy to be so explicit, but considering how shallowly the film followed through on that theme in the…

Yeah, crumbling buildings and piles of debris. How about some human interest? How about showing Superman or Lois getting upset over the death of someone who wasn't Space Hitler? How about showing Superman trying to save more people, instead of thoughtlessly ramming Zod through buildings? How about the guy with…

74% of critics liked Prometheus. You're not going to tell me all my problems with that movie merely come down to personal taste, are you? To adequately demonstrate why I consider TASM incompetent, I'd really have to do a scene-by-scene breakdown. But let me just say there are plenty of films I dislike while…

I'm hardly a diehard superhero fan. I barely read the comics, and skip the movies if the trailers or reviews turn me off. Most of my problems with TASM are as a movie, not as a comic book adaptation. I just… don't see this chemistry you're talking about. Their interactions felt artificial and clumsy to me, despite my…

At least Avengers made a token reference to the human cost. Man of Steel just ignored it.

That's a tricky one. Man of Steel has more going for it, but also more going against it. I guess I respect MoS' ambition, but prefer Returns as a Superman adaptation.

Not to mention emotional investment.