Question: What more could you want?

I’m starting to get the impression that Chris Evans is the whiniest bitch I’ve barely heard of (before all these bitch-fests, of course).

Agreed. Everything started to go to hell, with the new for 2001 Civic tossed out double wishbones for a strut suspension. Been downhill ever since.

I’m not sure I believe him. I’m having a hard time understanding why the new Civic is so damn large, and an even harder time understanding why it’s going to take Honda over a year, beyond the R&D they already did for the new Civic, to sell a version pairing the turbo engine with a manual transmission. If they were…

Or you can just wait a year and pay MSRP.

Your argument is pretty dumb, given the M4, a considerably larger vehicle, is only 25 lbs heavier. I.E. BMW should have no problem saving weight in the M2.

It would be perfectly legal in NC. No emissions testing for anything pre-OBD-II. (before 1996)

Sorry, I’ve still gonna give the win to the V8 model. The V8's power and exhaust note are the only ways I can overlook how heavy the car is. Might be lighter than the last generation by roughly 150 lbs, but it’s still an overweight piggy.

How can that have something to do with it? That’ s 1) a vehicle on public roads, 2) not a race car & 3) not a racecar on public roads.

I assure you, it’s NOT the same freaking car.

The V70 was the 850's successor. Entirely different model, different drivetrain. They also look quite different; its easy to tell them apart.

The only flaw in your argument here is that the 850 T5-R and 850R were never sold with AWD. So you’re not even talking about the above photographed car.

Heck no, look how small the trunk area is.

How in the world did the video taker not curse after the explosion? I would have been making up all new 4 letter words if that had been me, lol.

A sports car can be a muscle car, but a muscle car isn’t always a sports car.

There’s nothing fancy about a flat-plane crank engine. Unless geometry is considered fancy.

I bet that new 10 speed transmission would help out the V8 pretty well in that regard!

Wow, I didn’t know the new Raptor ditched the V8 for a TTV6. How did I miss that news? Either way, I don’t care how tough the V6 is.

That’s not really an unGodly amount of mileage for a diesel Benz. Dunno about that price though...

I wouldn’t spend that kind of money for a 4 cylinder turbo engine.