I’m in the middle of watching this movie. Thanks for spoiling it.

You nailed it. The only people who “aren’t won over” are people who were never going to be won over because it wasn’t an exact reproduction of the MK4 Supra, which none of those people have ever driven and certainly will never own. Most of them were probably born after the Mk4 went out of production.

Thanks for posting this, what modern Toyota engine is better than a B58? I’m so happy the Supra exists and if I didn’t have a young family - I’d be in line for one too.

Try as it might, Toyota just couldn’t win over all fans of the Supra.

I am not in a position to assume responsibility for this Lotus. 

Both of you are probably just absolutely insufferable to be around.

Indeed. Over 30 dollars for 2 beers at a recent concert is highway robbery.

Blame the consumer for not supporting overprice capitalism. good on gen z for not blowing their money on overpriced poison.

It’s not healthy habits, it’s the fact they don’t have the money to waste on booze at concerts.

How about concerts are too expensive and people who go to them don’t want to spend money on overpriced refreshments?

Went to a concert a few weekends ago. One 16oz white claw was 17 dollars. Beer was no better at 18-19 dollars for one 16oz. That can’t be the reason though.

These are the things that will potentially kill you. Rest is cosmetic

Manual or GTFO is right... but

You talk about manuals and then you keep comparing the ITS to automatics. I want a manual. I want a new car. I want a sedan or hatchback. I want good looks, reasonable performance, a great driving car and reliability. I want buttons and knobs for the climate system. I’m not interested in drag races. I am willing to…

If you want an amazing manual in a car that is fun and sporty get practical for everything else in life, what is the competition?

I was lucky enough to get a blue one in the 200 car ITS lottery that I will be purchasing at MSRP. The CTR with inevitable mark-up will most likely be more than that. It has been said... “opinions are like aholes, everybody has one”. Most of you are just jealous haters.

I can understand not wanting to pay a lot more for a car that looks so much like a Civic. But the Civic is a really good looking car to begin with and I’m seeing it as less and less of a negative. If I wasn’t so old and living in a city that makes a manual transmission a hassle most of the time even for the young, I…

Wow, what a total buzzkill you are. (You are also correct. Wisdom is recognizing that those two things very often go together in life.)

My wife and I test drove one (she’s still in minivan denial). I had a theory that it would be nice before going in and after driving it around for a half hour and playing around inside, that theory was validated. Out of all the 3 row SUVs we’ve driven, it was one of the nicest steering, nicest feeling interior, and…