"What will we do this time with Adam?" IDK. Arrest him? Or at least force him through an accountability process. Guy's a rapist.

If you read (the honestly very good) 'Coreygraphy' and use IMDB you can get the names in the main of the people who abused Feldman as a kid. John Grissom was raping/ abusing Corey when he was, I think, 16-18. He also effectively describes being assaulted by Ginger Lynn before that when he was 15 (I'm hesitant to speak…

As a general rule, don't trust Kenneth Anger.

As I said in another comment she was American which is, in part, why I have given it a lot of thought. We were 4-and-a-half years apart in age and she was a couple of months off 17 when we first got together.

I am sorry that happened and deeply ashamed too of having a relationship at that age. I do not know if the dynamics would always be the same as a 15-year-old and a 40-year-old, which is why I questioned L.I.E. being used to illustrate such an age gap.

P.S. Much of the above probably informed by having OCD + reading Camus' 'The Fall' and Vanessa Place's 'The Guilt Project: Rape, Morality and Law', a book that is both remarkably insightful and seriously offensive by turns. I thoroughly agreed with 50% and was really angry that Place would write the other 50%.

Many sex crimes horrify me and I can't imagine the perpetrator's reintegration into society… I am simultaneously very aware that I had an ill-advised relationship with a 16/17-year-old when I was a few years older than that. I'm British and live here in Britain, but she was American. So - despite knowing that the girl…

I agree that the example of, say, an 18-year-old fucking a "consenting" 15-year-old is *absolutely* about entitlement, but is it always about power and domination in such a case? I don't think it is defensible and obviously not noble, but I'm not convinced all such cases are motivated primarily by sadism.

What about Adam and Hannah in Girls? (although I must admit that I don't find them all that sympathetic)

True - though L.I.E. is about a 15-year-old kid and a middle-aged adult, whereas the sub-thread is about 20-year-olds with 16/17-year-olds. The question is whether they are morally the same/ equally unforgivable, past the point of the moral-event horizon.

Some do. Some don't. Some have a close-in-age exemption of 2 years; some 10.

These comments just confuse the hell outta me… :s just above you were saying that child molesters can die horrible deaths for all you care (which is fair enough!) but here you say "the idea that somebody can have their life ruined for fucking a 16 year old who gave consent" when the whole point is that children can't…

Except 16 and 17-year-old children in certain states… (somewhat bizarrely)

I find him really compelling as a character… but he's still a rapist, which surely invalidates his "good points". Some actions are so overwhelmingly selfish/ evil/ monstrous they override everything else about a person. The show acts as though growth and change on his part are meaningful, but can they be?

Also, the show doesn't really deal with the fact that Adam and now Hannah are rapists. It's hardly 'Breaking Bad' where the whole point is that the protagonist has crossed the moral event horizon into irredeemably. If the writers want to assert that Adam and Hannah are still more than just rapists (and whether this is…

I feel a lot of people have forgotten that Adam is a rapist - it feels a bit weird talking about his 'growth' as people have been doing since raping someone isn't a thing you can really move on from.

Ah! Sorry. Cause it was mentioned in the article, I didn't think it would be a probably discussing it.

How so?

How does everyone else deal with watching the character of Adam in the show after the fact of his being a rapist? Like, one year down the line, do you wish that Dunham had followed up the storyline differently or in some major way punished the character?

Good episode, but I was pretty troubled by Hannah sticking her finger in Eric's butt without first asking mostly because I didn't feel that Dunham intended us to read the scene as sexually assaultive, despite Eric's clear shock and discomfort. It makes sense that the show should be aligned with Hannah's viewpoint (and…