But this is them trying to change the results of our elections. Are you okay with that? Would it be okay for Putin to pick who leads our country?

And wasn’t the reality that life didn’t change much for the freed slaves as a result?

There’s a difference between denying it (which I’m not doing) and being skeptical of institutions like the CIA and the NSA (which I am doing). Did Russia hack us? I’d be surprised if they didn’t. But it doesn’t freak me out any more than learning that the USSR spied on us during the Cold War. Nor does it make me…

You’re the one who started taking digs, breh. But whatever.

I’m guessing these pre-production leaks and comments are intended to be trial balloons to see how the public likes or doesn’t like their premise before they sink a gajillion dollars into making the thing.

So...we’re mad at Russia for...what again?

Yeah and instead of industrializing, they have casinos. So im not really seeing anything “alt” or “speculative” about this premise.

So...basically like if Native Americans all got herded into one geographic area?

I forget where I read it, but in another review of this book, it’s stated that Trump is already trying to get people to challenge him in the primary.

I hear you. I just feel like we should put a pin in it for now. But we’ll circle back to it soon.

“If ultimately our principles were so malleable as to no longer be principles, then what was the point of political victories in the first place?”

agreed; shit like this brings out my inner henry chinaski:

obligatory:

I’m inclined to agree with you, but I’d like to get the view from 30,000 feet before we proceed.

POLITICS IS THE NEW SPORTS

“the NFL’s shrinking middle class”

“Based on the fact that I don’t see a reason they would have to lie about this one. Based on the fact that they haven’t ginned up a threat in recent history.”

So you’re giving them (the intelligence agencies) the benefit of the doubt due to...what? Sorry, I’m not following you. All Ive seen is people who have a seven decade long reputation for lying to get what they want trying to freak us out. Which has, for the most part, worked. What makes you confident this isn’t…

Based on...the rest of the internet, I’m not sure that’s a positive feature.

In general, no, I don’t think it’s posturing. When Obama got elected in 2008 with a Dem majority in Congress, they shifted to working on the state level, for the most part.