Augh saaaaame. I have developed a repertoire of “special” high fives with the kids in my life (the “rocket,” the “squid,” etc.) And they love it. And yet some of their parents always try to make the kid kiss me.

Exactly. There’s a lot of confusion going on on my Facebook feed of, “Durrr... why would she slap a police car?”

I love Jon Snow, don’t get me wrong.

I hope you pruned them right off your social tree. Awful people like this will almost definitely come at you with some needs in the future. I hope you get some satisfaction out of ignoring them.

Exactly! It was so strange to me how my bachelorette party (like all things wedding) was supposed to be A Statement About Something Larger Than Myself. My sister planned a chill night with live music, and it was awesome. But the strong reactions I got almost ruined the whole thing:

I think the reason it’s becoming so predictable is because events like Ned’s behading, the Red Wedding came out of nowhere. Now, we’re all conditioned to be like, “Oh hey look, this character has a PLAN. Time for everyone to die again.”

Yeah, I seem to recall in the book that, Littlefinger is brokering a betrothal between Sansa and that the heir to the Eyrie. And he brushes off the whole Sansa-married-to-Tyrion thing with the fact the marriage wasn’t ever consummated. Or that he’s probably going to be dead soon anyway? It’s been a while.

Came here to make the Mormont correction, scrolled down to see if someone else made it, left satisfied.

He seemed like the kind of villain you’d encounter in that world much more often than the flamboyant monsters like Ramsay.

Yes, my favorite thing about the books/show is that there are so many great *characters.* Lots of people only enjoy watching characters they *like.* I’ve always gravitated toward characters who evolve and surprise me. And that’s why ASOIAF/GoT are so great.

Way back in Season 3, I was like, “OK but wait til you guys meet Ramsay and Victarion/Euron! Joffrey will seem adorable by comparison.”

The same supervillian progression happened in the books, too, so if anyone is at fault, it’s GRRM. Granted, show Euron is way more cartoonish than book Euron (who I thought was WAY creepier and more terrifying).

Exactly. Nobody believes me when I say Theon is my favorite character. But:

I was pretty surprised that the show-only fans’ general reaction to 2/3 of the sandnakes getting killed and Ellaria getting captured has been “Meh ... stop cutting into my Jon Snow time with these random subplots.”

He’s more than welcome to stop watching and judge the show for “pandering” or whatever he thinks is going on. I don’t even watch the damn show, I’ve got no horse in that race.

Well, no, the character was consistent with that particular characteristic, and it’s a characteristic that we regularly attribute greater importance because it’s so related to identity.

I think it’s a very dangerous road to go down when we are trying to tell people what they should and shouldnt like in things that they consider entertainment.

We do take it as given that an audience will more easily identify with characters whose characteristics they share, so why are we surprised if that audience expresses some honest displeasure when those characteristics are changed? Like, maybe this person really likes the character.

I, too, would hesitate before visiting Saudi.

It’s his whole response taken together that is the issue. You are focusing on just half.