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9/22/15

Or how about the complete pullout of the VW brand from the US? No loss there. Yes I could do without the GTi.

9/22/15

Meanwhile, at the EPA

9/22/15

This was the most awkward automotive press event I’ve ever been to, and I’ve been to a bunch of them. The VW employees weren’t really jovial even amongst themselves, which is a bad sign.

9/22/15

A vast, empty room. Large enough to fit several elephants that no one from Volkswagen wanted to discuss at the moment.

9/22/15

Based on the awkward feeling I got thinking about attending this event, I can only imagine how much more awkward it was actually attending.

9/21/15

And how dare they actually care about public health and the environment.

9/21/15

http://gawker.com/ex-peanut-exec…

9/21/15

The law is not ambiguous, there is no question here. This is from a letter from the EPA to truck manufacturers from 1998. It is the EPA’s interpretation not legislation, but has been upheld in court (affirming that interpretation unless overridden legislatively.) It applies to this article and the current VW thing. In…

9/21/15

how dare they enforce the law.

9/21/15

9/21/15

These government bodies would RATHER you not comply, so they can make money

9/21/15

I’m pretty sure that is the $83 million civil penalty mentioned in Orlove's article. That reddit comment has no sources whatsoever to back it up.

9/21/15

You are literally one of the people I am referring to. It’s not hard to see that manipulating the output of something you are trying to measure for a test to produce data that doesn’t exist for anything other than passing said test is unethical.

9/21/15

It doesn’t help that most of Gen X was first alerted to the mere presence of the EPA by this guy. In my mind, he still works at the EPA in real life:

9/21/15

Like we used to say back in the ‘70’s...

9/21/15

Lots of purported Libertarians are still developmentally stunted vis-a-vis sharing, honesty, and the applicability of rules to themselves.

9/21/15

It’s only imaginary

9/21/15

Presumably the trucks ran on a test mode for their first 20 minutes of operation, then went into a dirty mode thereafter.

9/21/15

Sad trombone indeed but many of the customers bought into the ‘CleanDiesel’ talk and thought they were doing a favor for the environment. The customer entered into the sale with the presumption that the car they were buying was LEGAL to drive on the road in the United States, could obtain a certain MPG and achieved a…

9/21/15

A critical story in the libertarian-minded policy journal The Independent Reviewdetailed the case just as it had been settled, elaborating the ‘absurdity’ of the EPA suing engine producers for making engines that technically passed all of their tests.