True, though if they planned to sell them in the US, Rover has no recognition here at all.

Everyone has a different "red line" that makes the M division genuine. For some the line was crossed when M cars stopped being homologation specials, which was a long time ago. For others it was the first M SUV. For still others it was turbocharging, etc.. I'm not judging your parameters, but the M division is…

Yeah, like Mini, though I wouldn't suggest dumping the 2Active etc. into Mini's stable. MINI has its own retro-cool thing going, and I don't think it's dependent on BMW's name either. I don't think many Mini buyers associate their cars heavily with BMW.

Man, if there was ever any better reason to form a sub-brand...I can't think of one. There's clearly money to be made for BMW selling cars like this, which is fantastic, but it seems it really does tarnish BMW's image. Create a sub-brand that is affiliated enough with the Mothership to benefit from its brand…

God, the M2 NEEDS to have these behind-the-headlight vents!

That's not how you speak to family.

Still better-looking than an NB.

Do you mean "Truck-based, short wheelbase bro-status Wrangler competitor?" If the Bronco makes a comeback, it probably won't be about utility, just like the Mini comeback wasn't about cheap basic transportation. It'll put the Bro in Bronco. I'd love to see it nonetheless.

Yep, the "normal" P4/5" wears the badges. The racing one doesn't.

Boom, got it in first!

These photos look like they're from a configurator of some kind. We need that configurator. We NEED that configurator! So help me God if you're holding out on that configurator!

Haha don't be puttin' words in my mouth now! I said some people do it well and some don't, and I'd say the CLA doesn't. That screen bezel really does look like a cheap Garmin. But I also understand why they do it, and other interiors pull it off very well. It's fine if you don't like it, just don't be all…

I respectfully disagree, completely. Look back at the cars from a few of years ago, most of which had screens integrated into the dash, as you say. Many of them didn't look that good. Thing is, having a big ol' black rectangle in the middle of your dash means you have to work around it to make it look good with the…

Although, technically it's been only 48 years of rivalry, since the Camaro didn't come out until '67. ;) I kid, they're good sports.

Not much guilt with something that's awesome. Rape vans tend to be later models.

Well, I wasn't looking for one, but I sure am glad to have it!

It's like I'm watching a segment of Unnecessary Censorship. Fantastic!

I don't like either of them, but at least the CS Vintage looks like it wasn't a 14 year old kid's photoshop hack. That TM thing isn't even trying.

Holy crap I just got the reference of those LED running lights.

Did anyone order those gloves? I'm considering them, but I'm wondering if they're comfortable, especially with the wrist section not having any tightening straps.