Totally agree. I mkean, clearly there's a serious problem to confront. My concern is that there are attempts to arrive at results for shock value rather than to seriously assess what the situation is and what needs to be done. The shock value approach can often backfire.

How about don't suggest imply or suggest that inconclusive studies are conclusive?

Sample size isn't part of the methodology?

I think that's absolutely an important point. The discrepancy IS an important finding that can help inform efforts to best address the problem. But the conclusion that a third of all college men are rapists in waiting based on this study doesn't seem like something an honest person interested in tackling the problem…

Yes, sciences funding IS an issue. But that doesn't change the fact that methodologically-problematic studies don't produce results upon which you can draw firm conclusions.

Yeah, agree with you there, because there are regional variations in attitudes towards sex and gender roles as well.

It doesn't need to be a national scale, but the methodology here deoesn't seem to be the strongest. Seems like they were trying to get a parituclar set of results out of this.

I didn't realize that you can generalize the results from frat boys to the entire male population.

That's the point. If he prefers it that's his prerogative. There's nothing for him "to get."

Seems that's exactly the point, although the "there's no one-size fits all approach" seems to be a fairly intuitive conclusion even without this study given the different circumstances in play when sexual assault/rape are committed.

Yeah, I don't buy that at all. Of the roughly 200 countries in the world, a good portion, at least half, have been around for fewer than 200 years, and decolonization and re-mapping screwed with national identities.

So basically #notallwomen

Not so in the human one, where all the males people are chasing the top 10% in terms of beauty.

It's not my place to dictate what should be, but in so far as a key component is breaking down traditional gender roles, I don't see how one can maintain that women shouldn't be confined by such roles while their male mates should be. That's there prerogative, but it strikes me as massively hypocritical.

Well another difference is that, unlike animals, women can choose to pursue guys instead of just waiting to be pursued, but the vast majority choose not to (even those that supposedly believe in equality).

He doesn't get that he can dress any way that he wants to feel comfortable?

Yeah, calling me pumpkin made me totally not notice that you avoided the question.

But isn't it a common refrain here that women DO NOT dress for men? So is that argument wrong?

Except we have plenty of posts in this very thread saying that believing that men and women are equal isn't enough to be considered a feminist. So you're mad at him for not accepting the same label plenty of female "feminists" would deny him?

Not as far as I've seen, particularly racism, where feminist and anti-racist goals address very different trypes of discrimination and are at times at odds with each other. You can argue that seeking equality for female POCs is a feminist issue, or at least should be. But for male POCs? Still often seen as the enemy.