Pff. I think you might be fighting a losing battle here. People using this many straw men in an argument with you are probably not gonna appreciate your point that satirizing a strawman argument would make the satire meaningless.
Pff. I think you might be fighting a losing battle here. People using this many straw men in an argument with you are probably not gonna appreciate your point that satirizing a strawman argument would make the satire meaningless.
Okay, then next time make a point that isn't an illogical offensive generalization and I'll get it.
"I do not impersonate females! How many women do you know who wear seven-inch heels, four-foot wigs, and skintight dresses? I don't dress like a woman; I dress like a drag queen!" - RuPaul
I can understand how some people who have seen problematic drag queens can get the inaccurate impression that drag is anti-woman in it's essence. That's why I felt it was worth mentioning the feminist qualities of drag to that commenter, because personal experiences and perceptions don't necessarily give you a proper…
Yeah, no influential women getting their vision seen in the fashion industry, if there were, they would totally hire bigger models.
Ah, right. Personally, I don't feel your comment here conflicts much with the things I said. Unless you feel that mockery of women is inherent to drag instead of just feeling that drag shows can be problematic. I get and like drag's goal of breaking gender boundaries, I agree drag queens can be misogynistic, but I…
Don't tell people not to get angry about bigotry aimed at them. They have every right to be. ("They" in this case, since I'm actually not a gay man myself. But I'm still allowed to get pissed at people being bigoted.)
Thank you for pretty much every comment you've made on this article. It makes this whole mess slightly less depressing.
Thank you, It's a relief to at least see some people in the comments who are not okay with all this bullshit. Right? It's upsetting me too. This is an interesting topic that should be written about by a much much much better writer for a much different, less ignorant, more introspective audience. This comment section…
That second paragraph was me attempting to clear something up about the purpose of drag and drag shows, because after reading their comment I felt the person I replied to quite possibly wasn't aware of it.
It's not infrequently that I wonder what I'm even doing on this website when I read some of the articles on minorities + the responses. This is definitely one of those, I'm thoroughly disgusted by the majority of what I'm reading.
You seem to be refuting an argument I never made? My point is, "drag shows" is not any sort of appropriate answer to the question asked, and not any sort of measuring stick for what all/most gay people are like. One could have a discussion about misogyny in drag, as much as one could have a discussion about misogyny…
THANK YOU so very much for taking the time to go into detail about the offensive stupidity going on here. This article is one-sided inflammatory nonsense. Not that the topic of the misogyny of some gay men is nonsense, but this actual article is chock full of huge generalisations, unproven assertions, leaps of logic…
Thank you, I totally agree, most of this comment section is horribly depressing. (Totally agree except I think this article is inflammatory nonsense. Not that the topic is nonsense, it's an important topic to discuss, but the actual article is chock full of huge generalisations, unproven assertions, leaps of logic…
Why? He gets to be pissed about statements like "Gay men are the biggest misogynists". Because knowing a gay guy and meeting his gay friends makes someone an expert on all gay people! This commenter is being homophobic.
Seriously? Seriously. You're equating drag shows with gay men, or are at least saying that drag culture is a big part of most gay men's lives, to offer "drag shows" as a meaningful answer to this question.
Are you seriously trying to argue that the answer to the question of "who objectifies who more?" is gay men, by offering a fucking stereotype? Gay people in the fashion industry are a small part of gay culture, and an incredibly miniscule part of all gay people. So unless you're trying to say all gay men love fashion,…
Oh god. As someone still held captive by Glee season pleasemakeitstop, I can only shout YES to this. (I don't actually watch regularly anymore, thanks to tumblr, but I still care a lot about what happens to Kurt, for which I blame tumblr.) But really, I thought the fact that Ryan Murphy gets to plan out a brand new…