You know what I'm talking about.

For the STi guys out there,

Again, they were both street racing and putting other people's lives at risk on a public road. It's on a recording. If the R35 would have been doing the speed limit, he would have had ample reaction time. They were both at fault and caught reckless.

He probably acted innocent and blamed it on the F458 anyway.

Amateurs.

Though do note that the Ferrari, which caused the accident by cutting off the GT-R, happily sped off.

Yes. You're right. You're just not look at the big picture; it's the underlying causes of Lexus and the economy at the time. That's what I'm trying to portray here. The governments were restricting the economy, etc.

No. I'm saying that as the absolute truth. People who drive those vehicles drive them because they're cheap to own and it makes them feel good. They're generally not bright enough to think about the long-run. Welcome to the mind of a self-proclaimed environmentalist.

1. Environmentalists don't want CARS, period.

Leave it to a true "wingnut" to drag politics and personal emotion into a discussion. I can teach you about economics in conjunction with the environment, however, because you may not understand how simple human interaction works.

Oh, excuse me then. What happens to a vehicle like a Leaf after its short lifespan is ended? After new battery technology makes them obsolete, what happens to the old vehicles? Bingo. They are disposed of. It won't be long before our environment will be "suffering from the terrible battery dumps" environmentalists…

The quotes are there because most of the self-proclaimed "environmentalists" are not really helping anything in the environment. Environmental science is just a useless subject based on feelings.

Not according to them. It's the same reason why they drive disposable Nissan Leafs and other cheap-build econo-vehicles.

If you knew some history of the competitive nature they were in at the time, you would understand. But, roughly, that was a cause.

We'll never see those days again thanks to governments and "environmentalists."