They’re not just going to try... they will.

I suspect loaded ones will top $50k. I suspect even lightly optioned examples will be $45k.

Realistically, the Z is bare bones at $40k. Half decently packaged and with an LSD and big brakes it’s a $50k coupe easily, without any markup. The 6 speed is the gold star, but looks wise I much prefer the Supra, and I’m a Nissan fanboy.

These comments always make me laugh. Every time I get the itch for a new car I drive just about anything that looks interesting. Price point only applies to those I can’t afford. Twice in the past I’ve replaced an existing car with one that cost significantly less because I just liked it more. If you’re shopping for a…

Back to the 1st Gen Viper as my Choice

Hopefully this will get Toyota to put a manual in the Supra to compete.

Gonna have to disagree with you here because the CT200h is literally a dressed up Prius. It’s exactly what it’s suppose to be.

Have you driven one? I remember years ago driving my cousin’s BRZ and I had the same opinion until I drove it. 

300k houses....  I wish it was 300k.  Our row home sold for 878k CAD, our new house cost 2m.

So the government mandated TPMS, but didn’t require that all automakers display tire pressure at each wheel?

All of these cars come with HUDs

The ride is a little rough but the looks you get are priceless.  

“It's perfectly reliable if you do a bunch of modifications" isn't quite what you think you're saying.

“The dealership dropped off a 2019 cx-5 GT Premium today and I LOVE IT. But the monthly is gonna be higher than I wanna pay.”

“I didn’t totally grasp how the economy worked in terms of dealers and used cars”

This is also true. While the pandemic has been very hard on some people, a lot of households are in great shape, and while they weren’t driving last year, they put off their new car purchase and now that they’re venturing out, returning to work, etc, they’re ready to buy. 

That and most of the people who do buy news cars didn’t lose their jobs and suddenly had extra cash from not taking vacations or going out to eat.

I wouldn’t just chalk it up to greed. A dealer has fixed costs—utilities, insurance, payroll, loans on property and inventory, etc. If you sell five cars this week versus ten last week those costs will remain the same. Likewise commissioned sales people. They still have rent or mortgage payments to make, mouths to…

Or, you know...basic economics.

So you support unions unless you are the employer?  Doesn’t sound like most businesses at all...