I’m also an engineer. This is a beautiful design engineering feat. It isn’t an elegant one. It’s okay to have form over function it just comes at a cost.

It is awesome. Just not an aesthetically beautiful Aston that I’m used ot.

You’re missing my point. Cadillac should not sell at the 200k uber luxury point. They should invest in themselves as Genesis has in the past year. Make good cars at the price point they were meant to be at. If Cadillac moved up-market the first meeting would be discussing how they could cut corners on making a Bentley.

Any predictions on how these are going to sell? I’m pretty blind to the European EV market

Totally. But it’d make more sense to resurrect Studebaker or Packard because at least they followed through and failed completely.

Take Genesis for an example. They have turned around their brand in under two years by making actual solid vehicles and investing heavily. If you water down your brand to what Cadillac has done, good luck asking people to pay 3x as much. And as far as trying something new, that’s what this EV is supposed to accomplish.

Cadillac’s name has never held any weight to Bentley. It would make no sense for them to move that far up the bracket with the heritage of such vehicles like the Cimarron, 1981 Fleetwood, or really anything since the 80s. 

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I’m assuming little state incentive. Also Tennessee and Kentucky aren’t exactly known for being adept to change.

Also it seems appropriate that the name “Lotus” is in China. Chinese companies should use more historical names in their brands. Like an EV company called Bamboo or a Jeep competitor named General Tso

Geely has done a great job with Volvo, so I’m really hoping we can Make Lotus Great Again (TM). Although I imagine we will be seeing some of the add lightness principle leaving.

That’s fair. But I’d debate for whether or not it would have to be advertised more. It was a car for a pretty niche market. A RWD V8 sedan sounds great on paper, but appeals to only enthusiasts who are actively looking for that exact car. I haven’t run across a car person who doesn’t know of the SS.

I believe lights have moved their way up because of safety standards.

The Chevy SS is a direct example of people not demanding a subdued high performance RWD car. And never say never. Genesis has turned their brand image so far around in 1 year, at this point the ball is in their court.

Reference“Toyota Avalon”

If they’re going to make a performance oriented model, there is going to need be aesthetic changes. Wider fenders, more grill, the typical treatment. People want other people to know they are driving the ///M version.

It looks like a Cobra in the face, and I think that’s one of the coolest features of the car. Also I was scared of snakes and now I’m scared of cars that look like snakes. Fitting.

The UX is a bimmer, and I’m bimmed that I care.

Any thoughts/regrets with the IS F? The resale has been so strong on them that I might just move on getting one sooner than later