“the tactic can also damage a brand over the long term”

It’s not really that Tesla’s piece of the pie is shrinking, but rather the pie is growing. EVs as a whole are gaining market share against ICE, which is the real battle to fight. It was never Tesla’s goal to achieve 100% EV market share, but to create an environment where a rising tide lifts all boats.

I was very close to buying one with the price cuts. But fuck Elon Musk. I’m not giving that clown a penny, and don’t want a car so closely associated with him.

It’s clearly a Mercedes G-Wagen with extra Wagen.

Something about the way it looks just screams to me: “Now you and 45 of your closest friends can die in a low-speed collision!”

The simple fact is that we know China has no qualms about stealing IP and trade secrets to further their business needs, so one has to question why anyone would do business with them in the first place. There is no honor among thieves, when you lie down with dogs you get fleas, and all the other old adages apply.…

Agreed on all points. Just wanted to point out that despite its flaws, people were still preferring the unique combination of elements that the S and X represented over comparatively priced cars.

Right, but one of the ways they make that profit margin is by not retooling every 3-4 years. Which was fine when they were the only player in the electric car for grown ups game. But now they’ve got competition and that’s not gonna fly.

Seriously, with $60k in hand, how did this not possibly come up? 

Eh?

Speak for yourself-I’m drinking the kool-aid on this one.

My solution to people putting their feet between the seat and the side of the plane and into my seating area is simple.

People LOVE SUV’s and NEED AWD. That is why.

About 1/3 of all traffic deaths are alcohol related, and it’s estimated that alcohol related crashes more than $120 billion in damages. I’m not saying I’m for mandatory breathalyzer tech, but if the cost was trivial and the accuracy were 100% it would be hard to argue against it.

First Offense: $100 fine. Vehicle Towed at owner’s expense.
Second Offense: $500 fine. Vehicle Impounded for 2 weeks.
Third Offense: $2000 fine. Vehicle Impounded for 6 months.

The fine is…fine, but throw in some “towed at the owner’s expense” and you’re getting somewhere. I’m guessing that $100 might not be that big of a deal to some, but the hassle of dealing with a towing company would be. Plus, it could free up that EV parking spot quicker.

Math adds up. $100 for illegal parking, $900 for deliberate douche asshat behavior.

Please - shit 100 bucks isnt nearly enough 1000 might teach them to not do this shit again. Hell a 1000 dollar fine might just be the thing that causes that Challenger or RAM owner to miss their next payment ... and that would be too bad wouldnt it.

Alternate title: People who consider themselves too cool for a minivan impatiently wait for minivan.

Everything about this system sounds stupid and dangerous.