The target market for this doesn’t look past the lease special. This is a nice Civic for people who are convinced that their friends will think they’re more fancy because they got the ILX instead of the Civic. 

literally a honda

This. IMO a nicely accessible torque curve should start around 1,500. 3,600 in a car that aspires to luxury could be an experience anywhere between “really?” and “OMG no” depending on NVH.

While this might be good, what I see in relation to the Audi A3 in Canada is:

Ok, we will be fair; this 17 year old engine has a head that’s 5 years old.

So you’re saying it’s hideous to drive?

“Incidentally, didn’t know if “as good as it looks” was a compliment or a burn, given how Acura has been a mixed bag as of late in the looks department.”

“its 180 lb-ft of torque peak comes at a low 3,600 RPMs”

$30,000 for a 2012-2015 Civic with leather and sound deadening?

Hard pass.

I’m a big LR3 fan. I really wish that they would’ve kept the boxier design for the fifth generation, especially if they were going back to the Disco name.  There’s nothing quirky or even particularly interesting about the new design.

I take exception to that! My JKU is only as clean as the last rain storm, and all body damage has a good story behind it.

As a long time jeep owner I hate them too. It’s really supposed to be a fun-loving vehicle that doesn’t take anything too seriously (especially welding the frames together).

I’ll take a stab at this. It is a combo of two things:
First: used Jeeps are often shockingly lightly-used. Because they are crap for gas, rattle more than expected, uncomfortable, etc. the 5-year out examples tend to actually have lower mileage than other 5-year-old cars have. On top of that, the Jeeps look basically…

Is it though? Really?

That’s good. Here in CO I’d say it’s about 50/50 now. The huge influx from out-of-staters who live in an outdoorsy state now get a jeep to say they’re ‘one of us’ now.

The later version of the JK were pretty well ironed out. That being said the JK was involved in 26 recall campaigns over its 10 year model life.

There are laws about using them in traffic. You can’t. Anywhere.  They aren’t DOT approved so you can’t used them.  That having been said, you don’t know the value of a lightbar until you are traveling down a deserted highway late at night and you see the deer you would have hit otherwise.  I mean, they have NO place…

The Unlimited is easily the ugliest car on the planet. That said a two door is pretty sweet. 

Detroit isn’t electronically selectable.

With an IFS truck, the BANG would be the CV’s exploding.