I’m all for enforcing this, or a similar rule for all Olympic events.  But you have to start somewhere, and these are the events with the most visible issue.

Nice job dismissing responses you can’t answer.

Ooh, nice Blind Prophet. I like how you’re so confident in your position you keep dismissing my responses to you.

Off the top of my head: Kim Jong-un decides to bring emulate the East Germans and force male North Koreans to compete as women.

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Serious answers please.

But it’s completely relevant. You have rules to enforce fair competition. There are two divisions for sport. One of them has limits on naturally occurring traits.

But it’s completely relevant. You have rules to enforce fair competition. There are two divisions for sport. One of them has limits on naturally occurring traits.

Rules need bright lines. I really can’t believe you think having a doctor examine and “approve” someone as female is _less_ arbitrary than a test with a numerical value.  What do those doctors do with trans athletes?

That’s a bad take. I’m sure that some of the people in favor of the limits are racist/sexist/some other ist. But that doesn’t mean that everyone who is in favor of them is. The visible problem gets addressed first, and Caster is very visible.  The real solution is for all competitors in all high level women’s sport to…

You’re the one avoiding my question now.

Visible issues get addressed first. I have mentioned elsewhere in the comments that I have no doubt that Caster’s masculine presentation caused her condition to become widely known. I’m all in favor of applying this test universally at the Olympics. I actually wonder if one reason it hasn’t been is that in sports like…

Required if she wants to compete.  Just like other competitors are required to meet the rules of her sport.

Saying “I’ve had my ass handed to me by women” is disingenuous, unless you’re a world class athlete. While there are plenty of women who could beat most man at a given sport, there no sports where any woman could beat the best men.

I’m interested in your take, but I have no idea what you’re saying here.

I’m not certain of your intentions, but you might want to clarify which sort of “coming out” you’re referring to.   “Coming from”?

You’re projecting.

You call it a sidestep, but it’s all probably true.   Gender is a spectrum and if you’re going to make divisions you need to draw a line somewhere.  Heck, if they wanted to add a third category for folks in between I’d be for it.  The problem is that the percentage of folks who qualify are very small.

The willful blindness to this fact just drives me batty.  As do the folks who insist that women could compete with men on an equal footing in sport even though the top athletes will tell you they could not.

I’m for the testing, but I really wonder if the reason they’re not doing it in the hammer throw that the majority of competitors there have this or similar conditions.