I think they crammed all the faults into that one car. Sorry you got it. My LS is flawless. 

Sure would have been nice to have a coordinated federal response that the states could have looked to for guidance in all of this.

The constitution trumps all laws in the US. The whole point of it is to recognize God given inalienable rights that cannot be stopped by the government. If something is deemed unconstitutional the states can’t do it either.

We haven’t.

At least on the lot - it is carrying street cred. People don’t pay over MSRP on vehicles that they don’t like. 

So... two very well-made, attractive, and reasonably affordable large-sized vehicles that were already considered to be a good deal at their original price points haven’t needed to reduce those prices?

Don’t worry though, MB will continue to sell you your light up Tristar.

Should the readership just interpret your use of “fake” as meaning “lacking brand prestige”? If so, then you probably need to realize that a lot of people don’t want to pay a badge tax just so people like you approve.

Finance on 36 months would be 1200 a month with zero down and taxes, and the car would be worth 50% of its initial value once paid.

Missed headline opportunity.

I think it depends on the dealer, like most things. My sister in law had a regular ol’ forte that grenaded an engine at 110k. Kia goodwilled a new engine for free even though it was out of warranty. That’s not the only occasion I’ve heard of that happening either. They are still fighting a fair amount of brand…

A sign of a good salesman is being able to tell the customer why their product is the best choice for the customer. Simply bashing the competitor only communicates that you don’t know why your product is better.

Paying over MSRP for anything bothers me, no matter how nice the vehicle is!!

Yeah those are base model cars with $3500 due at signing with no tax and fees included. That would be $430/mo with 0 down before tax. These are fully loaded SX trim cars with, 0 down leases including tax. An LX AWD has an MSRP of about $34k-ish. These are $10,000 more. If you take $10,000/36 = $277, then add that to…

For those of you holding out hope that there will eventually be incentives for these, our hairdresser just bought one...in the middle of a global pandemic...when people literally cannot legally get their hair cut.

The Telluride actually saw increase in sales this year.

A Honda salesman laughed at me when we said we were looking at a Telluride when we bought my wife’s car. He claimed Kia wasn’t even in the same ballpark as Honda, and that we’d be making a huge mistake if we didn’t buy the pilot instead. He’s right. Kia isn’t in the same ballpark as the pilot. The Telluride is a FAR…

I would like to add to that, very thorough analysis, that we tend to spend relatively more on small cars which suit better our roads.

No, they didn’t. It’s a different provisional count, and not the one to rely on for now.

No steal prices here. From all the besotted schoolgirl hype the “article” spewed out, I was expecting 50% off.

No steal prices here. From all the besotted schoolgirl hype the “article” spewed out, I was expecting 50% off.