That’s what it was but if you read the interview with Mr Toyota about this car the goal was to make a real sports car out of this model.

I will be looking at one, and if I don’t buy one it won’t be because it doesn’t have a manual transmission.

That Mach 1 was a handful because it was a live rear axle rear wheel drive car with all of the horsepower going to that pair of wheels.

The GT-R is not engaging because it’s limits are so high you won’t get close to them anywhere but the track. That fact would not be any different if it had a manual box. I have never heard anyone say the Alfa 4C was boring, and it is only available with an automatic transmission.

Let’s ease up on the capital punishment for non-stick drivers shall we? We are going to need everyone buying enthusiast cars or there won’t be any produced anymore. I met a couple at a parking lot who parked their 86 next to my BRZ. It was obviously the wife’s car and it had an automatic. At least she figured out a…

I will take you at your word, but most would choose fast over fun. We are conditioned to think faster is better, and that slow car fast is still just slow. If this were not true sales of both the Miata and BRZ would not be as low as they have been. I am also fairly certain the percentage of Mustangs and Camaros sold…

I think that is probably where it should be, although I expect the low end price to be over 40 grand. Having said that, if the twin turbo straight six makes the horsepower and torque that has been claimed this car should more than hold its own with a Cayman S.

Most of the people that have overblown expectations about this car couldn’t afford one anyway. I think they will sell as many as the market will bear, and it will be able to compete very well against the competition in both price and performance.

It better solve all the problems of the world or it will be considered a dismal failure by at least half of the people posting on this site.

I would argue that it wasn’t even a true sports car.

Well sure, but look how long it took for the Mustang to get to the level where it could even be considered a real sports car. The A80 platform is now over twenty five years old.

If you could carry some momentum uphill, you didn’t notice it. No, it wasn’t going to set any hill climb records, but it was not remotely close to something like a Volkswagen bus either.

I would because I did it already in in the mid-eighties when I bought a gen 2 Supra. It had a nicer engine than the 944, handling was very close to it as well, and was infinitely more reliable, besides the fact it was substantially cheaper. With the price of a new Cayman S pushing 70 grand, the Toyota should maintain…

I doubt that diffuser will make it to the production car.

I would expect it to look smoother without the aggressive body kit on this racing version. I don’t know why everyone is already hating on this car, from what we know and have seen so far it sounds pretty interesting.

Most think the Cayman is it’s target competition. It weighs about the same with the same amount of horsepower.

That didn’t stop me from buying a new WRX three years ago, and it won’t bother me this time either.

The revelation for me was riding in a friend’s A4 that made the same horrible front suspension noise over the smallest bump that was exactly identical to the noise made in another friend’s Passat.

Audi makes some nice cars, but as a brand have some real issues as far as I’m concerned. Their base models, as you have pointed out, just seem like tarted up Volkswagens. Their upscale offerings, like the TT RS make me ask why I wouldn’t just buy a Porsche for the same price or just a little bit more.

I agree, this might be the next car I buy, if I can get in that metallic brown that is available on the E class...