I’m not responding to your dumb ass, I’m responding to your dumb ass attempt to say that holding men accountable is virtue signaling or an attempt to get laid.

This. Exactly.

They do have them. They also have to use them, which would appear to be the sticking point.

I get this impulse to let the women talk, but really, the time for silence is over.

won’t someone think of the men!

You’d think they’d have the resources available to them to develop a brief, articulate statement.

Why hasn’t everyone at NBC blocked Lauer’s email and phone number? Does he think this is a temporary exile, and that after the storm blows over he’ll be welcomed back with open arms? I think (HOPE) we’ve grown beyond giving predators a pass after they’ve done their time out of the public eye.

I’m an addict and a survivor. The first thing I learned in recovery is that I am 100% responsible for my actions whether I am drunk or sober.

Yeah, well, sucks to be him. What he might do should he not receive the absolution he feels he so richly deserves is not the responsibility of the people he’s hurt.

And I might think he was sincere if he didn’t do that performative “I am sooo awful, I am just a piece of shit, I am the worst person EVER, I should be…

I’m a career woman, 40 years old, and your comments here are a steaming pile of bullshit. Advice like that typically only comes from old white men who have no idea how the world works for people who aren’t in their demographic, or young white men with a severe lack of the kind of real life experiences that help to…

People that are willing to martyr themselves and put up with shitty treatment from assholes in order to fulfill their own dreams are a huge part of the problem.

Yeah, stuff like that is a tough sell when women in the entertainment industry only have to be rumored to be “difficult” to see opportunities diminish or disappear altogether. The day women get extra chances at success after being horrible to everyone around them for long stretches of time is the day I’ll start…

Have you looked into the full specifics of this? Considering her response of “to trust a boss when he complimented me and not cringe when he asked for my number. I was afraid to be enthusiastic, knowing it might be turned against me later” there’s cause to think it was harassment and not just a mercurial dick boss.

I’m not going to dismiss this one. Where exactly did I say making amends is impossible? It’s impossible for one to make amends from a place that isn’t completely genuine and emphasizing one’s own comfort is inherently disingenuous.

I agree. It’s inappropriate to, in your apology, ask the victim of your behavior to help make you feel better. His recovery is on him; it’s certainly not Ganz’s responsibility to fix him. She couldn’t even if she wanted to.

maybe... asshole bosses should not be the norm... and holding them accountable is a step towards that....?!?!?

Grown ass men get a lot of “second” chances, eh?

That’s what it boils down to. I see this so much when the topic of racism is broached. Someone does or says something bigoted, gets called out and somehow the discussion veers into their comfort, as if it’s a child being addressed. I’ve seen situations where the person even starts to literally cry. It always comes…

Also makes me wonder just what suffering he’s talking about. Clearly does not come from even a remotely similar place that Ganz is talking about. He says and does shitty things. Ganz has shitty things done and said to her.

“I feel bad for treating you like shit. How can you not make me feel bad about it?”