@BrtStlnd: God, it's horrible. I have one which my parents got for my first car (Safe-ish, good resale value). The interior is pretty nice, and even though it's a 2002, it has some pretty classy features, such as heated seats, side airbags, and a pretty spacious trunk. I even managed to get a fairly pleasant color,

@Wrathernaut: Well my issue is that you seemed to think that every teenager completely abuses their car (well, that's how I interpreted it), when that isn't necessarily true. I'd like to think that I take better care of my car than most people. I mean, I don't treat it like a show car, but I make sure that it gets its…

@crankyshaft: Sir, at what point did I even imply that you "don't anything about Chevrolets"? I certainly don't see that anywhere in my post.

@southernscrew: I may never understand what would posses a parent to buy their bratty, ditzy, incapable new driver a sparkling new BMW. It blows my mind.

@regal1975: I hate this stereotype. Sure, some of my less automobile-minded peers may be a bit abusive, but the vast majority of them are actually quite good to their cars.

@Wrathernaut: I resent that. I'm a teenager, and I do my best to take very good care of my car. Granted, it wasn't new off of the lot, so I guess your post doesn't technically apply to me.

@TheRedLine: Exactly. If you're going to spend a bunch of money on a sports car, then treat it as a show piece, why wouldn't you just buy the body and glue a couple wheels on?

@luisthebeast: Boatloads of torque don't make a car any lighter. Again from memory, I think the 0-60 is somewhere in the 8.8 second range, significantly slower than the Elise. I did look up the top speed, and it's either 120 or 135 on models after 2006, depending on which final drive ratio they were equipped with.

@luisthebeast: Actually, if I remember correctly, the CVPI tops out at 127, and so does the Elise. Plus, the Elise gets there faster.

@philibuster: Probably the only cool thing about the state.

@crankyshaft: There's nothing trollish about this. He's pissed at a dealer for getting crappy service, and is sharing his story. His English is just fine, and it's a totally believable story. Really, the only trolling I see here is yours, rudely knocking on his post and a car company without any backing experience,…

@Dirt Pirate: I think turning would be a bit drastic. Just moving should be enough. Or an abrupt stop.

@grzydj: They have 'em down in the lower peninsula, too. I see them around from time to time.

@shouldknowbetter: Who says you can't be part of a group and retain your individuality? You could come up with an entirely unique and original modification for, say, a Mustang, and while the modification would be original and individualized, you could still be part of a group of Mustang owner/modders.

@R-GTI: I'm thinking GT-R wagon.

@LuckyChuck: The difference between you and most people who say that is that you have an actual urge to go out and do it, and understand the benefits. Most people refuse to learn out of sheer naivety.

@GeeHalen: Is it weird that the first think I noticed is how small those brakes are? I don't see how those could stop a geo metro, let alone the bulk of that camaro.

@TalonLardner: If you understand the concept, learning to actually apply it may not take very long at all, depending on how quick a learner you are. It only took me 30 minutes-1 hour.

@Suby555: I agree. Now, I wouldn't pick a car with a 3.0 second time over one with a 3.2 second if the first one was otherwise a piece of crap, but I certainly wouldn't want a car with a 10.0, no matter how well it handled.

People who think turbo=nos. "I'm going to put a turbo button in my car"