I just had an hour long discussion about this with a friend, finally successfully explaining it to him, so I will do my best to repeat that here to clear things up for everyone. I want to do this in a matter of fact manner, but please do not take my words as aggressive; I’m only trying to kindly clarify the concept.

I do not know how to fix the industry by myself. I’d probably start with imposing stricter environmental controls at mines, refining facilities and factories.

Sorry, there are some things capitalism can’t fix. It’s a race to the bottom (price), and creating cleaner operations will only happen if doing so profits the company.

Right, and creation and use of toxic chemicals, chemical disposal, etc. The problem is not 100% fossil fuel consumption and emissions, but those are a big part of it.

Sure, a whole new type of battery might be created, but until then lithium ion battery production is energy intensive and environmentally hazardous. We’ve got a long way to go to make it remotely sustainable. I believe consumers need to push manufacturers to reduce the environmental hazards of everything from mining…

We’re a long way off from even solar power being sustainable.

That’s nothing to be ashamed of.

They still have to be mined and processed on the front end, then processed and repurposed on the back end. Both of those use a ton of energy.

Really? I had a D16 swapped EG HB and it was an absolute hoot.

I had an EH2 with a D16, and though it was a raving pile of rusty trash, it was a ton of fun to drive, got out of its own way and once got me 50 mpg over a 500-mile tank, which is pretty good for a 1.6L and DX trans.

88-00, I think you mean. :)

You’re just reapeating (right down to the word “pretend”) what I said earlier. Can I answer any questions?

What is the point of electric cars if we generate our energy and produce our batteries and dispose of our batteries in the same ways?

Also

Did you not read “pretend”? A DX has the same shell as an Si. It doesn’t matter that the DX wasn’t performance oriented, because it mostly looks similar to an Si.

Civics had performance variants; therefore, people without the cash for the Si would buy a DX and pretend.

I thought Vine was dead?

When I started bike commuting as an adult (as opposed to unemployed high schooler) it was at first frustrating how long it seemed to take for me to get places, even though it wasn’t that different when car traffic was considered.

Maybe make your lawmakers “aware” of your sentiments, then. The Internet doesn’t care, lol.

Yelling at clouds isn’t a realistic solution either.