tycho13
Tycho13
tycho13

The crash requirements for commercial vehicles are different, but they very much still exist. They are rarely re-tested by NHTSA and IIHS due to the cost of the vehicles and the scale/cost of the required testing systems.

But as I said above, the standards do exist and automakers are expected to perform and document

**...by NHTSA or the IIHS.

The FMVSS contain copious requirements for crashworthiness and crash survivability. We have a self-certification model for the FMVSS standards, where automakers and suppliers follow the test procedures laid out in the FMVSS and provide documentation of this to NHTSA before they can sell those

It’s still uninformed public panic and media fearmongering.
If we include the cyclist, Waymo has had 4 injuries in over 7 MILLION miles of driving and none of them were the fault of the Waymo vehicle, pending more released information about the cyclist, but it sure seems like he flew into an active intersection from

The incident occurred just days after a Waymo self-driving car hit a bicyclist in San Francisco.

I do currently have a ZDX and it works and looks great for me, a childless person who does not regularly get manicures.

For the record, that cyclist was likely better off finding a Waymo car on the other side of the truck rather than a human driver. The Waymo car was certainly able to react faster and more smoothly than a human would in this scenario, and that assumes the human wasn’t distracted.

Waymo is, in my opinion, the ONLY

I wont lie, I get genuine enjoyment out of watching people try to find the rear handles on my ZDX. It’s black so it’s extra hard.

It almost makes up for the shame I immediately feel when they then try to climb into the back seat. Love the damn car but the ergo all around is dogshit.

New here? They do these “poll the readers” questions pretty often. This site is a business and to stay IN business they need to drive clicks. While the writers work on “real” articles, it’s easy for them to foster a bit of genuine engagement with articles like this. The time it took to set this up has no real impact

I’ll kick it off with maybe an unpopular opinion... I like those second-row door handles that disappear into the trim work. I find them surprisingly ergonomic and, when done well, keep the style lines really tight. Honda’s HRV and the Acura ZDX are the examples that immediately jump to mind but there are a bunch.

I think twitch is probably most worried about copycats and someone frying themselves on-stream trying to get famous. The “how long and how publicly would twitch host a dead/dying person before it got caught and stopped” is something that probably keeps twitch’s lawyers up at night.

I know this is probably very serious tech and the original, full-res photo is something to behold, but having this much technobabble precede a scaled-for-web-publication photo that looks like it could have been taken on an iPhone is hilarious. It reads like Erika Blumenfeld is trying to describe her new Canon EOS R5

Gosh you know, it feels like every time I’m faced with a sociopolitical issue, it always comes back to either income inequality or public transportation and safe/sustainable infrastructure.

Super weird, right? It couldn’t possibly be some sort of pattern and there’s definitely not any other countries that might prove

Fundamentally, if I have to spend an extra 15 seconds getting a stupid finger-print sensor thing to let me drive my car in exchange for a meaningful reduction in the lives lost due to drunk driving, that’s great. I’ll take that deal.

In some ways, this is like when drinking and driving was first outlawed. A lot of

An F-150 with a literal ton of gravel in the bed, maybe. Did you mean F-350, perhaps? Maybe leave this stuff to the Jalopnik folks.

I think that’s a fair counterpoint- locale makes a big difference. Here in Phoenix there’s not a ton of scarcity in the lightly-used market, but I could absolutely see why folks in smaller towns would need to buy new just to be able to buy anything at all that isnt the aforementioned 150k shitbox we both agree does

Yeah if someone I knew was INSISTING on a brand-new car but had a modest budget, I’d tell them to go to Mazda or Hyundai. The only places right now where I feel like a base-trim car at the bottom of the lineup has ANY value proposition, but you’re also still in the $20k range nowadays.

BUT- you sorta proved my point by

I think you’re missing my point...
I’m not arguing that people should buy 15 year old 150k shitboxes. Not arguing against it either, it’s just not related to my point.
I’m also not arguing that people shouldn’t buy new cars at all.

I’m arguing that the value proposition of an entry-level, base trim, budget car from the

I think your math is a bit disingenuous- after delivery, dealer, and registration fees you’d be awfully tight trying to get a $17k car home for $300 a month with only $2k down. $350 is probably more realistic.

But if our price point was $17k, I’d still point someone towards a lease-return 2021 mid-trim Seltos or

Other than the visibility and the ergonomics of the back seat, the ZDX is a truly wonderful car. It’s quirky and out-there, but it still drives great and is reliable as hell. And considering they made fewer of them than the original NSX, I’m really surprised there isn’t more of a cult following!

Absolutely- but I will say I don’t think we have to play the binary of “new car vs used >10 year old car that needs work” - My main point is that I think people could be in a car that doesn’t require much more work than a brand new car, but is nicer, better equipped, and better to drive than any base trim new car and