Yeah- that’s a whole ‘nother can of worms.

Thats interesting to hear! Good to hear, honestly.

Congrats, you missed my point.
If you actually have to haul those trailers, then you’re one of the few few few people who actually need those trucks. Enjoy!

OTHERWISE- the culture developed by the Big-3 to sell trucks has made tons of people genuinely believe that they need huge trucks to be a man and get “real” work…

Dude, you’ve made it. You’re free! You broke the spell of the Big-3.

And you’ve clearly made it in general as well. Congrats!
There’s a huge problem right now with people thinking they need big trucks to get any “real” work done. People just don’t recognize how much can be achieved (and towed!) with smaller vehicles,…

Great, congrats- you’re a part of the slim slim number of people who have a justifiable need for the truck.

My gripe is with all the people who’ve fallen for this culture that you need a truck to get any “serious” work done. It’s made lots of people wildly underestimate how much can be done (and towed!) with smaller…

Ungreying because you’re the only one so far who’s brought a good counter-argument. I appreciate that. Hats off.

I’m not suggesting this is the fault of the consumer. I’m suggesting its the fault of manufacturers and accessory companies carefully cultivating a culture of excess and hyper-masculinity to make money.

Diamonds, for example, are a terrible investment. They’re wildly overpriced, come from mines that are environmental…

Sure, but it depends a lot on what you’re towing and why.
I think a lot of people could probably get by with less trailer, too- especially for recreation. The fun-return on increasing boat size, for example, diminishes relatively quickly; especially in areas where you only get the boat out a couple weekends a year.

Right right- and you, my friend, are in that very very small percentage of people who got the right amount of truck.

I’m getting a little tired of 20 year old college students in lifted bro-dozers that spent 90% of their time taking up two spaces in a university parking garage.

It comes down to a gross culture of hyperma…

I dunno- I’ve never had trouble beating the crap out of those 9ft cargo vans or the home depot rental trucks when I’m in a pinch. As I said in a previous reply, I think most people are caught up in a culture that has been cultivated by the manufacturers to sell trucks- most people don’t realize how much you can do…

Exactly.
People don’t realize how caught up in this toxic culture they are- it’s all been built and perpetuated by the manufacturers, of course, but your everyday guy wildly underestimates how much can be done with non-trucks.
My family growing up was CONSTANTLY doing construction and renovations, especially…

Oh sure- let me be clear, I absolutely get why people buy trucks.
My issue is largely with the manufacturers that are just running away with it on size and absolutely feeding an unhealthy and unsustainable culture of oversized vehicles that are wildly inefficient and dangerous to other people in smaller vehicles.

I just need to know how often these brand new heavy duty trucks actually tow enough to justify themselves, ie- towing more than the next size down can tow.

This entire concept is deeply and existentially terrifying to me. I think Id rather just die to a tumor.

Look... I’ve continued to give this thought and I’m convinced I’m on to something. I’ll make a video explaining my theory- I’ll write a damn treatise on it if I have to -but I demand to be taken seriously on this for at least half a moment!

I mean, I would argue even wheel horsepower is misleading because peak horsepower still only happens at a particular RPM, achieved during a tiny slice of engine time- maybe only 30% even when the car is driven hard, WAY less when the car is driven normally.

You’re absolutely correct- thanks!

Eh, for someone who seems to think themselves an expert, your reading comprehension is fucking garbage...

English might be the most malleable language on the planet- few experts would argue otherwise.

I always thought lowering a car increased efficiency by reducing air flowing under the car, lessening viscous drag and increasing turbulence on the back end, lessening pressure drag.