Thanks for expressing exactly what pissed me off so much about this whole spread, along with the fashion notes, that I couldn't quite put my finger on.

"I would say to anybody faced with that, that choice is way down the line on the spectrum of what you can do and to really consider the advancements we've made in things like nutrition and stress levels."

I think if they spend some time making a conscious effort to do non-shitty or actually kind and helpful things, instead of being ignorant and selfish, maybe they will be able to balance it out by the time they are 90.

Here's the difference: You're saying you would not want to inflict violence in retaliation to someone, even though they've been violent with you. But that's not the same as publicizing an incident where someone has wronged someone else. No one is suggesting violence or anything like that. But if those boys think…

Men don't have vaginas. Stop being obtuse.

If you'll read the thread, you'll see that we are discussing his RESPONSE.

Yeah. except his claim that he was just doing her a favor by pointing out reality is really kind of a lie. He asked her to write an essay justifying how they wouldn't be wasting their time admitting her. To be used as part of the admissions criteria. She had to explain how she would not let her vagina get in the…

Yeah, it would be a weird career trajectory for sure. To be a principal you need to have a teaching certificate first, and counselors need a completely separate certification. then there would be the principal's certification. It would be a lot of education to get, including practicum time, for sure. Which makes…

Why is that?

Actually, shaming people is pretty important. And even if there are MORE important things to worry about, some of us are capable of worrying about multiple things at once, so it's all good.

Damned if you get an abortion, damned if you carry to term.

No one should be shamed by having to hide part of their body in a fucking yearbook photo for any reason.

"I would rather spend that same amount on a good cause."

This is a good cause. These are elementary school children, who have different emotional needs and fears than adults. To say that they should use money that they probably don't even have yet (I'll donate!) to support a cause that you see as more worthy is minimizing, to say the least.

Lots of people are saying ziplocs for the paint roller.....I've got one better. But one of those Large Ziplocs (they are sold in like bags of 4 for storage and shit) and zip up the whole mess - paintroller, paint frame, and roller tray, you can even throw your little brushes and trimmers in there. These plastic bags…

Wait, you're concerned that these girls' actions, if labelled properly, will cause them to feel shamed? That's called GUILT, and hopefully they will feel some, and it will lead to a behavior change. Why are you so hell bent on protecting these girls from any unpleasantness? They certainly don't give a fuck about…

Professional help won't help if we're not honest about what happened. So instead of getting counseling for being racist, you think we should tell them they're getting counseling for being inconsiderate?

You are absolutely right. I am a school counselor and I know damned right well that kids can be just as racist as their parents. Worse, they often get a pass on their shit because they ARE kids. I call bullshit, but you said it much more clearly than I could. People need to stop making excuses. Schools today have…

That's what you got out of this? That a girl who had topless photos of her circulated and posted online was overreacting by becoming depressed and suicidal?

Umm, yeah, the problem isn't that they know its illegal. They also know drugs and underage drinking are illegal, too.