When they name the charity(ies) ahead of time, it forces their hand. I can’t imagine the PR backlash a dealership would get if they decided to keep the money. Plus the winner could sue (and probably win) claiming they only bid that much because it was going to a good cause. It just wouldn’t be worth it.

Wow. That’s the most whiniest, butt-hurt post I’ve read here (and that includes Hamilton Nolan’s stuff).

Dear rule violator dealership, we are sorry to inform you that your shipments of Grand Cherokees have been delayed, indefinitely, please enjoy your next several deliveries of all MANUAL base Renegades and Compasses in the interim.

None of that gibberish refuted the idea of a free market.

Can we stop saying “minimalist” when we mean “spartan?”

The issue isn’t not liking public transportation. I love public transportation! But it’s not unreasonable to expect it to function with at least a baseline of reliability. Otherwise what’s the point, and what are we paying for?

Every time I get miffed at King County Metro (motto: “We’ll Get You There...But We Hope You Don’t Have Concrete Plans About That”), I think “it could be worse, I could move back to Boston...or move to New York or Philadelphia.”

And this is why, if I were holding a competition, I would demand that sponsors front the money first into an escrow account to be released once the competition ends. That way, they can’t weasel their way out of paying the appropriate prizes.

There is a flaw in your logic Torchinsky.

I haven’t seen the engine bay on one of these, but it may not be a good indication. Ford Super Duty trucks have a long snout too ... and the engine is under the dash, behind the front axle.

Fellow HD adjacent person here

Couple that with when you DO get hurt on a bike you’re now in debt up to your eyeballs because said baby boomers have so totally fucked the american economy.

I tried going to a dealership to look at a used XR1200 (because we have a photo on the wall of my Grandfather flat tracking an XR750, thought it would be neat to get an XR) and they insulted me for looking at a used bike, insulted my masculinity for not wanting to buy a full dressed road sofa, and insulted my wife for…

I’m 29. I grew up in a small town, and moved to Seattle for college. I’m a bleeding heart liberal who on paper shouldn’t fit Harley’s demographic at all.

Hey hey hey, we can just rebrand it “legitimized pirate cosplay”.

“the company reported a drop in general merchandise revenue of 17 percent”

Perhaps part of Harley’s issue is a range of motorcycles which weigh as much as a small moon, have barely enough power to pull the dick off a chocolate mouse, posess the dynamic prowess of a freshly killed trout and cost at least 20% more than their competitors.

Probably not helped by the fact that their dealerships are the most archaic, sleazy places I’ve ever shopped. Lots of condescending salesmen, nothing has a price tag, nobody will tell you the price of a bike until you start the finance process, trash talking other brands and even their own entry level products, etc.

I can’t wait for the MILLENNIALS ARE KILLING think pieces when Harley goes under for being...you know...terrible.

As an almost millennial that is closing in on the big 4-0, I can say with confidence that Harley-Davidson bikes and the whole “culture” that surround it never did and will never be appealing to me.