Unpopular opinion time? Unpopular opinion time!

Sigh. Okay, I’ll bite, despite the fact you are comparing two completely different genres and now you are just trying to find things in my statement to argue about. Sure, Dark Souls had sort of a story, sparse cutscenes and vague dialogue, because that’s what the FROM ARPGs have been like since the mid 90s. That is…

Incomplete. Dark Souls, and Demons Souls and Kings Field never had a driving narrative or story to guide the player. It was ALWAYS about wandering into the unknown and piecing it together for yourself. FF on the other hand has always been about story, cutscenes, dialogue, descriptions.

Fan submitted lore really thrives in incomplete games. I saw this same thing happen in FFXIII. This magical endgame dungeon that everyone views as an incredible departure from the pace of FFXV I simply view as a tacked on and incomplete poorly thought out project that one of the devs was permitted to add. Nothing…

FFXV, where any theory can work because there’s so little in the way of lore or narrative in the game itself.

Remember Static-X? I’m sure XxDeAtHlOrDxX does

I’m not arguing that Tracer should be Bi or Pan or whatever. My problem is with this article saying “girl kissing girl, must be lesbian”, constantly using that word and never realizing that the character might be bisexual or pansexual instead.

Sure, I agree. Maybe it’s helpful to clarify that I do not think trying to reach an empirically correct balance is a good way to go. That creates the circular logic.

she’s not real

Well I think quota check boxes are stupid to begin with, because they lead to these circular discussions. “A gay character? Great, but it’s a gimmick!” “No gay characters? What homophobes!” etc etc etc.

I mean, unless it’s outright and painful tokenism, i’ll always side with inclusion over noninclusion. The argument where they’d rather not just have one character included, I don’t necessarily agree with - especially in this context of Overwatch where the character’s sexuality isn’t shown crassly, exploitatively or…

Preach.

See, that’s another way to think about it. Should all things try to represent the statistic reality of sexuality in America/Europe/Western culture? That would mean, as you said, that less than one character in Overwatch is queer, an empirically supported reality. The problem is that it doesn’t really satisfy anyone.

Okay, this is going to be a touch pedantic, but it’s something that’s irked me about this topic for a long while: Being in a lesbian relationship does not make someone a lesbian, just as being in a heterosexual relationship does not make one heterosexual. Bisexuality and Pansexuality are things that exist.

Weirdly, this sort of conversation bums me out, and here’s why:

As a pansexual person, YES. This was my first thought, too. I get it, this is literally the only thing to go off of at the moment, but damn. I get enough erasure with an opposite sexed partner as is. :P

I’m all for positive representations in popular culture but can somebody explain to me why Overwatch’s lore seems to be about the domestic minutia of their lives? I mean being gay/non-binary is dope but I’m way more interested in like their superpowers and weapons and stuff.

I love this article mostly. It’s a great conversations! That being said... As a bisexual fan, I must ask why everyone is assuming Tracer is gay?

It’s funny too—I freaking love atmospheric games like Silent Hill or The Last of Us, but having to sit and listen to the radio is such a bore, and some of the broadcasts are miss-able or only happen in side quests. OR the 4 amigos decide to TALK OVER THEM.

If FFII didn’t exist, this would be my number one choice for the worst as it’s the first one since II that has absolutely lost my interest (yes, even XIII had me at least somewhat interested in what was going to happen), and it’s such a damn shame because the potential IS THERE.