I, like many others, like the current livery. But I can see some merit in the argument “it’s time for a refresh”.

I didn’t mean to “infer” anything with “sales pitch”.

I’m a techno-functional analyst supporting our ERP system.

I would actually say ‘dolled down’. (Yeah, even if that is not a thing.)

Holy crap - the best part is about 3:25 when, after a few kicks the grille still isn’t right, the guy kind of waves his hand in a “fuck it” motion and goes on to the next part to pound on....

Maybe I am being naive but Oshkosh trains/certifys 3rd party contractors to do the work - why can’t they give that same training to some military personnel so that it is present in the field? Sure, they probably will demand payment for that, but the military can probably swing it given where we are at.

I know this…

Zooming in and reading the article it sounds like:

You don’t see how selling 1 million cars in a year is relevant?  In the largest country in the world?

Did you not look at the pictures?

But “fine” doesn’t mean “good” or “smart”. “Fine” is “f-ck it, good enough.”

With an 11 month battery warranty.

I’d argue with you, but GM just cancelled it’s best looking vehicle. And even then it was technically a Puegeot now...

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you live in a big city or it’s suburbs.

I don’t know that this is a great story, but what the hell...

Everytime I even dip my toe into thinking about a new pickup I get sticker shock looking at Rams, Fords and Toyotas.

Excellent point.

I don’t hate the Challenger, but I think your question of “I thought this was an enthusiast website?” is unnecessarily narrowly defining ‘enthusiast’.

I drive a keyboard for a living. And I like good coffee to boot.

As someone who commutes 45-60 minutes in the Seattle area, I totally get your point. In an ideal world, living close is the best choice and it’s worth sacrificing to have a shorter commute.

I’ve learned in this thread that I need to cut my wife some slack.