that rear end is terrible, the previous version was way better

stop repeating coupe is dead... stop! it hurts. It hurts. Also what the hell did they do with the price. Mine was never over 32K for fully loaded v6 coupe, trim shorter than touring.

I still find it criminal that built in flip up boosters aren’t options on ANYTHING with family carrying credentials. Why is this option so obscure?

If you really don’t care about cars and want 3-row, cheap transportation, the Journey isn’t fun, but it fills the need.

You hit on most of the reasons.

The base model kias are pretty well equipped

Lol, you got me, I did have the cobb short shifter. That musta been it!

He said no car has 4ws but the new silverado truck.

I feel like KIA is starting to follow Toyota too much with adding on the plastic doodads to establish an identity. KIA should be more like Hyundai and just merge existing designs from other manufacturers so it can blend in; you know, stop trying so hard. That way they’re not wasting money on design which saves the…

Seven seat pickup truck. Now that’s American! I can see the next update to the “sedans are dying” thread. “People need the practicality of driving their whole neighborhood around with them as well as a load of gravel. The Canyonaro just isn’t big enough for your average American driver.”

While im down this badly photoshopped rabbit hole, how about a 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 6x6 triple cabover design:

This? I mean they make custom 6 door pickups so why not

Chevy should just give us what we really want and that’s a double cab-over with functional 6x6, eat your heart out mercedes

Bold statement for a pickup with a hood that massive, should have been cab over.

I am calling fake news on this one, Subaru’s don’t get better mileage than anything!

Maybe you shouldn’t be his friend anymore...sounds more like a burden.

Might want to remind him Jeep is owned by the Italians. If he has a WK Grand Cherokee with a Hemi, that all American V8 is built with pride in Saltillo, Mexico. But I suspect he drives an XJ or older Wrangler with that attitude.

My friend always tells me he will never own any “Jap Crap” like my Subaru.

Pretty offensive in more ways than one.

Oh, and always have to point out that my Subaru is still running every time I have to pick his ass up from the mechanics because his Jeep is down again. Or when I tow his ass out of a ditch... with my…

Acurate statement.

I don’t think Acura has built a car with enough vigor to bring back a legend of such integra-ty.