That’s why you meticulously center that volume knob, then never touch it again and only use the steering wheel volume control.

My wife has a 2018 base 2-door, non-s with the manual. Next time you’re rolling through RI give us a shout...we’ll give you the keys and the directions to some good roads. 

As always, you shouldn’t buy a car that doesn’t suit your needs. You people act like manual driving is going to be outlawed tomorrow. 

Well then if not being free to have a donkey in Brooklyn is unsatisfactory to you, then you have the freedom to move out of the city. It’s not like driving yourself in NYC is a peak expression of freedom anyway, constantly beholden to traffic.

Autonomous cars can be taught to use all those things the same way we train new drivers to every day. Except computers can learn instantaneously and incorporate all the experience of all others into their operation. A teenager can’t.

Do you see their current implementation being embraced by the DOT, the public, or politicians? Your hypothetical is disproven by the status quo.

You will have the same ability to travel; in fact, your ability to travel will be expanded further. We were talking about expression of personal freedom as a whole, not personal freedom in this one specific area where we’ve only had the ability for a short term anyway. 

I am pretty sure no one is talking about banning donkeys as soon as autonomous cars are on the road. We will still have control over plenty of things when we’re not driving ourselves anymore. This will just be a small blip in the history of humans when we drove our own cars. We had enough control before cars, and will…

Also the current system of driving has been evolving for about 120 years

In my eyes, that contradicts Jason’s point...fully autonomous vehicles will never be approved until they are demonstrably safer. There’s not really any chance that they will both be freely available and also more dangerous. They will either be safer, or banned. 

I mean, humans seem to have done just fine for the 99.9% of our history not personally piloting motorized vehicles.

I think they will have to be safer on average, or else their adoption wouldn’t spread. Either they’re safer or they won’t exist. If they had an accident rate higher than humans, people wouldn’t want to buy them, and (more importantly) government agencies would step in to mandate their improvement, the same way they…

Frankly, if I could hop in my car, put my phone into a dock and have it be ALL of my audio and media controls, that would be fine.

Maybe you’re just confused then? This isn’t a public safety petition site. It’s a blog where writers can write about whatever inane things they want, especially Torch.

Are you new here?

I don’t really care how good uconnect is by itself. Using the same Google Play Music and Pocketcasts apps right from my phone which are already set up the way I want with seamless playback from headphones to car to speaker will always be better.

Right, I said “media interfaces” intentionally, and gave examples of GPS and audio. Clearly cabin controls shouldn’t rely on an external smartphone.

I think car manufacturers are chasing their own tails focusing on media interfaces. They should go all-in on Android Auto and Carplay. Why reinvent the wheel? Everyone has a smartphone now, and Google Maps will always be more accurate than whatever outdated-by-the-time-it-leaves-the-factory map they load it with. And…

Why would they want to stop people from doing that? Their postman must have loved them. 

Their shop was in a PO box? I half remember hearing a factoid like that too, did they use a physical address for the puzzler earlier on?