No. I realize we are all limited to our lived experience, but your experience here is not analogous with what this doctor did or what people commonly refer to as FGM.

Nowhere did this article even bring up circumcision. Why is it so hard to stay on topic when it’s about an atrocity that’s done to women’s sexual organs? Why is it always, “We must discuss the penis first!”

Yes, but there’s a time and a place to talk about nonconsentual circumcision of the penis. Generally speaking, it’s not when talking about forced clitorectomies, since that’s a specific problem that has proven pernicious and needs to be stamped out.

You really think that removing the labia and hood are “close” to taking off the foreskin? I truly don’t believe that it’s analogous at all. (I’m a trans woman myself, by the way, and back before GCS, I was circumcised too. And don’t believe for one moment that it had any deleterious or damaging effect on anything,…

What the fuck? No. That is like saying if woman A slept with woman B who was trans but before she had transitioned in any way, or even publicly identified that way, then woman A has slept with a woman even though at that time woman B was biologically and publicly identifying as a man. Circumcision done to you as a…

Hood, yes. Labia? Not at all. Maybe if you were trimming some “excess” skin off the scrotum, that would be analogous.

I have never seen a thread anywhere about FGM that doesn’t end up swamped with men talking about male circumcision and how convinced they are that their lives have been ruined by it.

No, amputating a girl’s labia isn’t “kinda close” to a male circumcision, an arguably outdated but still minor procedure developed by men to reduce men’s vulnerability to STDs and skin diseases prior to antibiotics and modern hygiene. What a disgusting thing to say. Own your privilege as someone assigned male at birth…

I mean, I’m against routine circumcisions of boys, but these aren’t comparable.

I am 100% against circumcision and it is horrifying to watch but it is not at all similar to removing the labia and hood. Neither in the resulting level of mutilation/damage done or how involved the procedure would be. It is not a contest but it is also not equivalent and needs to stop being brought up whenever FGM is…

You’re right, it shouldn’t be treated as a contest. Which is why when people chime in with “whataboutthis” on every single FGM article that ever existed, they should be righteously told the shut the fuck up and take a seat.

Circumcision doesn’t have anything to do with this. There is absolutely no reason why women can’t have a fucking conversation without being drowned out by men. I am so tired of it that I honestly don’t know what to do.

“special girls trip”

I teach girls who’ve had the procedure done on them. Some of them plan to have it done on their daughters, even if they have to leave the country briefly to do it. When I first saw this headline, my honest reaction was, “at least a REAL doctor was doing it.” An alternative (some old lady in a hut with a boning knife)…

I am not surprised in the least that this doctor is a woman. FGM is often insisted upon by the women who have themselves endured it. I’m no fan of Ayaan Hirsi but she is clear that her father opposed the procedure, and her grandmother secreted her away from the home to undergo it. As well as another case profiled on…

Yep. Well, honestly, it needs to be remember that it isn’t the same thing at all. What’s removed in FGM is not equivalent removing the foreskin. It’s equivalent to emasculation — removal of all or at least part of the glans.

I just read about this story in the Washington Post, and whaddya know, the comment section is full of idiot menz shouting “WHY DOES THIS ONLY GET ATTENTION WHEN IT’S GIRLS? WHAT ABOUT THE FORESKIN?”

True story from a “low-key” bride who spent <$300 on her dress. When I first saw my sister-in-law after the ceremony she said—“You look so...comfortable.”

How on Earth did that woman manage to pick the ugliest Zuhair Murad imaginable? Usually I like all of their stuff (in a ‘I’d love to run down the hallway of a European palace in that’ way), but man, that one is not good. Another reminder that money can’t buy taste.

The thing that really grinds my corn is that, inevitably, some gun worshipping wingnut will blame the kid/family for not having “proper education in gun safety”, even though they never owned one. Yet, when actual NRA staffers blow holes in themselves at sanctioned safety events, the gun “just went off”.