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All the Civic needs is a turbo and Focus ST suspension. I hope they keep the styling.

I like the second gen xB better.

Ford said 70% to the rear of which 100% can go to anyone tire. Also Ford said it'll come with Pilot Sport Cup tires.

Let me guess, your the service rep who crashed his car?

Hell yeah I'd want a new car, dude bought a brand new car, is probably upside down on it, got a CEL and then had the dealer crash it. Now he's stuck with a crashed car that's worth far less than what is owed.

So uh... do you think I'd get better gas mileage if I took the full-size spare out of my trunk? In an age of cars coming with no spare it's odd that the Focus comes with a full-size spare.

I'd take either the silver or grey.

It's likely that used FR-S would still be under warranty too.

Although this logic was sound when the FR-S was new, now that they've hit the used market it no longer makes sense.

They're not bad, but I still don't get why I'd buy one of these over a Monster for on-road usage. If I was going to hit the dirt I'd rather have a true dual-sport.

I actually like the idea of leasing... as I hate driving old cars. The thing about it is I could pay $400/month for 6-7 years for a new car, or lease it for 3 years at the same price. If I lease I get two cars in the time frame I had the one I financed. Also, after that financed car is paid off... well I'm just going…

Spot on.

Thanks! I wasn't sure if AWD could do it or not. I still have my fingers crossed that the RS will be AWD.

It depends on what your goals are, the Fiesta is more flickable and gets great gas mileage. The Focus on the other hand is more comfortable, larger, and faster.

Yeah... seems to me like if it was AWD they would have made the back end stick a bit better around corners.

It's not the dealers that makes them that cheap, it's that Ford offers huge incentives pretty much across the board on all models.

I'm not sure how the Fiesta makes the Focus irrelevant... by that logic they should just nix the entire Focus lineup.

It's so hard to tell if it's AWD or not. I mean there's plenty of videos of the ST sliding like this. I'm going to try to not get my hopes up until the official press release.

I accidentally left mine in for a two day autox event... needless to say I lost my entire discount.

Meh... everyone should just do 55 MPH all the time, regardless of how good the current highway system and modern cars are.