GD!!! I hope they both end up in Riker (say hi to Manafort).

“Shocking” still has to be earned. If a twist has no narrative justification and isn’t probably built toward (and no, foreshadowing is not the same thing as building toward a twist. That’s just writing 101, sorry) then it’s not shocking, it’s just cheap. People can tell the difference.

Basically they just keep framing any criticism (this one, in particular) as people saying “Dany should’t have killed ANYONE after the bells” and then explaining it away from that angle.

Oh, I agree. My issue with the way her story ended wasn’t that she was such a wonderful person the whole time and suddenly turned bad. She had a messiah complex, a sense of entitlement, and a cruel streak from early in the story.

Subscribe to at least 5? YTube GOT channels and drop in on 10 more and...this whole: “If you didn’t see Dany going mad then you were not paying attention” deal definitely represents the minority opinion.

Exactly this. The rush to end the show resulted in some gaps that viewers had to fill in when we shouldn’t have had to. I did enjoy the destination, I just wish we had more to fill in the spaces.

All true and well said. Also, as commander Tarly had the moral obligation to surrender his troops. Instead of seeking their welfare, he tried to inspire a futile resistance against an enemy who had a bunch of horsemen and one dragon. But not one wagon load of chains nor plattons of guardsmen. It was incorporate them…

Oh, come on. Throwing a slave master to a dragon and burning thousands of civilians to death are not equally bad. 

I dunno. I would argue that it portrayed her as a person who was not going to settle down until she achieved her goal...which was the Iron Throne all along.

It also presented her as a person who realized she might not know everything and was frustrated occasionally when she tried to rule, but eager to learn…

“It’s personal with the Red Keep... ok now I’m gonna go destroy everything but the Red Keep for a while.”

Even if it becomes “personal” (more personal?), if the Red Keep symbolizes all she’s lost, why would she make the insanely unproductive move of not destroying the Red Keep, giving Cersei a chance to escape while killing a bunch of unrelated people for no reason? Those citizens were not in the Red Keep, it doesn’t make…

The whole Daenerys as Mad Queen thing is strange. Like my definition of “Mad” monarch is based on the book/show interpretation of the Mad King which was that he was insane. I never got that Daenerys was insane. She’s ruthless, but not moreso than Stannis Baratheon or Tywin Lannister or any other major power player in…

So nice that this wasn’t in the episode and later explained in a bonus feature.  Because that’s what fans want:  character development to be explained to them in a bonus feature.  

Yeah, it’s a story that kicks off with the sympathetic protagonist of the first book/season beheading a terrified man for desertion, when we know that running away was a pretty rational thing to do. Executing people for failing to obey or to do their duty doesn’t make you unhinged or a villain in this culture.

“Few would argue that Daenerys turning into the Mad Queen and destroying King’s Landing wasn’t fitting, as it was foreshadowed multiple times “

This is horseshit. The “foreshadowing” is only there retroactively. Had it gone the other way, there was just as much “foreshadowing” that would have shown her moving to being…

Foreshadowing plot points does not equal character development. While Dany going full fascist might be her natural endpoint, the show hadn’t earned it because the arc was incomplete. Hell, the final episode has Tyrion stop the plot to monologue to the audience to tell us how we should feel about Dany. It’s not the…

Honestly, Tyrion’s explanation was the best one - the show itself just missed telling the last few steps between Freeing Slaver’s Bay into massacring innocent women and children. There needed to be more escalation.

There was an abrupt jump between Mereen and burning the Tarlys. Then another big jump between that and…

It’s weird, when I watched that throne room scene I thought that they had deliberately shot Danaerys in such a way as to make her seem more radiant and ethereal, as if to underscore her transition to full-on tyrant and her high-minded so-called idealism elevating her, in her own psyche, above the horrible reality of…

So the conclusion to the whole Jon parentage thing was just sort of....whatever? Like Sam, Bran, Tyrion, Sansa and Arya still know but that’s it? I get that Jon never wanted the Throne and will always identify as a Northerner and a Stark, but considering this was pretty much the axis around which the series…

I am satisfied with this ending. I'm not over the moon, but it was better than the ending I felt like I saw coming in my head. I'd say 6/10. Loved the scene of Bran's new council bickering.