They did an admirable job trying to hide how attractive he is, I'll give them that.

Can you imagine the outrage? They'd never hear the end of it.

Well, that's fair.

Ooooooh! I have been wondering why she is never mentioned.

Well, hey, at least when it happens in the finale its dismissed more because of Danny's Leeroy Jenkins-ing it up, rather than being risky, to change things up.

THAT is where I recognise him from!

I have begun checking out Banshee after several recommendations, and uh, that's done absolutely nothing for my complete lack of objectivity when it comes to Pelphrey.

Ah, the perfect superhero love quadrangle, of course!

I'll add Ward Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest to the list of web series spin offs we should get, along with Ward Gets Help, Goes on A Cruise.

Honestly, if they fridge Karen to do double duty for Matt AND Frank, that would be terrible, and confirm my general feeling they have no clue what to do with her.

His response to Bakuto telling him he was with The Hand was the most done with this crap thing ever, not intimidated, not impressed, just 'not this shit again'. So good.

That's a fair counter, but the audience definitely has more problems with Danny than just his being white and privileged. I'll readily acknowledge that it makes for huge, unavoidable baggage for the character, and has undeniably skewed pretty much all critical discussion of Danny.

To be fair here - I've seen that criticism plenty, but given that this show also features another privileged white male who suffered from a very long term abusive struggle (and who arguably has less 'positive' traits) who the audience/critics are rather more sympathetic to, I question that his being white and…

Oh they tried, but by then, the ship had already long set sail.

So do we think this is a case of unintentionally sympathetic vs unintentionally unsympathetic? It seems a pretty big blind spot for the writers not to realise that being willing to criticise Danny (especially as they do make swipes at him) was bound to make him less likeable for the audience? It's not uncommon for…

Mmm, agreed. I think the problem here is they are setting up a parallel that is interesting in and of itself, but is immediately undermined by, well, The Hand being a ninja death cult.

I feel like Frank/Karen is one of those things that just sort of happened organically, and the writers wont have the first idea of what to actually do with it now that it's a thing. They really should jump ship on Matt/Karen, though.

They did grow on me as a couple as the show went on. The scene before the Dojo is raided where they're practising together, in particular, really sold their chemistry.

Nothing suspicious at all about immediately wrangling your way back into power after a very questionable suicide, nope.

He seems like a nice guy, he probably would. I bet he'd have a whale of time with the Bride of Spiders.