So you’re saying you care somewhat, lol.

If the Avalon looked like that, I’d go and buy one tomorrow.  There are few cars with its combination of space, refinement, and reliability in that sub-$40k space.  However, the past two generations have been horrible looking to the point of me not even considering it, and that’s a shame.

For the most part, Chrysler vehicles have always looked great, but are just steaming piles of shit.

Uh...yeah, nobody forced her to wear that bikini and market her looks. She never was anything special as a driver. She made far more money over the years compared to drivers in the same echelon as her.  Being female was far more advantageous to her than not being female.

CP

lmao, love that movie

This is the business cycle starting to slow down again.  Recession will probably start to be whispered sometime next year.  Fortunately, I don’t see any massive bubbles that will completely destroy the market like 11 years ago, but who knows?

Nobody can put the brakes on this but me. MURRRIIICCCAAAAAAA

Plus, the F-150 is fine looking.  This is not.

The Silverado is objectively horrible looking.  That is all.

For that money, just get a freaking Avalon. FAR better reliability, more powerful, just as luxurious, and much, much better resale value.  Who cares if it’s for the olds, it going to be better in every respect to the Arteon.

Yeah, it this were 10 years ago and Kia was still building hot garbage, I’d say get the VW.  Now, it’s completely the opposite.  Kia is actually much more reliable than VW, and the Stinger is massively more fun.

Yep, this is why I voted CP.  It’s not a laughable CP, but you can find better for less.

The worker makes the company billions, then gets kicked to the curb.  While I’m not a fan of socialism, shit like this is why people become attracted to it.

A virulent anti-Semite droning on about anti-Muslim bigotry.  Hilarious.

If nothing else, the comfort of being on a sofa while driving is what I miss most about 70's and 80's land yachts. Modern seating, though safer, has nothing on the comfort of those old rides.

It’s definitely not a laughable CP, but it’s going to take that special buyer for $8,500.  Not impossible in the least, but I’d be surprised if he ends up taking more than $6,500-$7k.

They need to sell that tech to FCA where it’ll REALLY get used.

The sales have proven that we are far from a third-world country.  The micra would sell HORRIBLY here, as did the Smart car, Sonic, Fiesta, and every single other small car sold here.