Around the time our Kia Forte wagon hit 60K miles, it developed a hard idle and a CEL. Took it to the dealer to get it checked out, fully expecting the worst, only to find out the intake had broken. Even though it’s an important component of the engine, I didn’t really expect them to cover the cost. We also expected…

1st: so raise the price of the car? No one buys a Tesla to be cost conscious. What's an extra 5 grand to a person who can afford a 100K car?

I thought it was about proving you've got the biggest one swinging 'twixt your legs?

Further reason why, as I enter the twilight of my twenties, I am terrified of having children.

I wouldn't call it a NP, but I don't really think it's a CP either. I move we institute a third category, AP, for Adequate Price. AP from me.

I get that point of view. One of my colleagues absolutely loathes the idea of car buying, simply because of the often confrontational nature of the negotiations. She’s an absurdly smart person, but only wants to socially interact with a handful of people, so negotiating big ticket deals like this is terrifying to her.…

Totally utilitarian and still appealing. Thumbs up.

I was really just pulling numbers out of my nether regions. Point being, no matter what you actually need to make a decent profit off of it, you advertise higher, get someone to the table and then offer said price. Mind games, really.

Also, can I get out of the grays?

Neutral: I actually like haggling. Usually my strategy is one shot offer with a fair price, not trying to cut the dealer off at the knees, because I know it’s not my job or place to decide how much profit a dealer should make.

Those fake swingarm extensions. They make my blood boil.

Or maybe the were rich and made a poor choice.

I've only ever seen semi well off seniors in these things. I live in an area with a lot of retired people, I've seen two of these in the last couple of weeks, both times it was not-quite-rich retired seniors. You could smell Bengay for miles.

I love this so much I have about half a roll of lifesavers in my boxers.

1. You have to like only fast cars; NO BITCH SLOW CARS CAN BE COOL AND FUN.

I’m curious what the long term looks like for the market on these cars. Objectively, they are pretty darn good, but there are better cars out there for similar money (now).

Oh god it burns.

If it runs and drives as well as it should then NP for cheap, neat, and quirky transportation.

Makes me want to slick back my hair, light up an unfiltered cigarette, and overtly treat women as second class citizens.

Ugh. Feeling guilty. Steve, I sold a car several years ago that had an iffy transmission. Not sure if it needed replacing or not, but I was just ready to get a different car. The price reflected enough of an allowance to get the trans replaced, but I never outright said it needed to be, because I didn’t definitively…