I think you make a good point. What’s more, I feel like Americans — myself being one but not of the fothcoming — appear to buy into “menace” as an important automotive quality. Just look at pickup truck bros, etcetera, for instance. FWIW, to me as someone born at the tail-end of the 1980s, Cadillacs — old Cadillacs,…

I cannot believe — I’m offended even — that no one has mentioned the MR2 Spyder.

Interesting: my anecdote is contrary to your anecdote — therefore cancel each other out. I dailyed a first-gen Mazdaspeed3 for five years over which it never had a problem.

That’s one masterpiece of a joke if I’ve ever seen one.

Excellent post.

Shadow does have a lot of merit.

I see where you’re coming from. I too had a strange nagging feeling the c-pillar may have been an illusion. I was thinking Ford Probe, myself, though. FWIW, I think I’m wrong — I can’t remember the last time I saw one.

How about a Grand Prix?

Mercedes SL, 240sx coupe, both from the 90s?

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And thanks for proving my point. Maybe you should saddle my position further and use that same tactic: look up the definition of “luxury car”. You’ll find that those results won’t go well for your argument either.

It’s going fine, actually. How’s it going for you? So is luxury = exclusivity or are we going to backpedal that claim and suddenly agree with it being more along the lines of refinement, as you even quoted? You have a tenuous relationship with logic, my dude.

My sentiments exactly

And also, I think your statement ‘luxury=exclusivity’ is ridiculous. Why have a word like ‘luxury’ if it’s defined all the same by ’exclusivity’? I’m pretty sure I can imagine all sorts of exclusive objects, cars even, that don’t fall within the luxury category. Personally, I wouldn’t classify a Koenigsegg as a luxury…

I traded my 20-something-thousand-dollar-new 2008 Mazdaspeed 3 for a 30-something”...” 2012 Golf R (Mk6) andthen traded that for a 40-something”...” 2013 BMW X1 xdrive28i with a bunch of optional equipment. Now, I’m not saying an X1 is a good representative of “luxury car”, but within that five-model-year window, with…

It’s not fallacious if it’s not intended as a counterargument. He did not say ‘yours is the Official That Guy Comment and therefore it is invalid’. You, however, made an (unsubstantiated) assumption that this was what he implied. He may just be, for all we know, validly expressing his subjective evaluation of your…

Where is the lack of substance? While it’s possible that the myriad accusations against Musk are false, there do yet exist said myraid accusations. The title even says “alleged” verbatim. Its more true that your comment, arguing lack-of-substance, is itself lacking substance.

Lol nevermind, I just noticed this was 5 years ago

Guy’s a Subaru driver, just sayin...