Those movies are, um, not great, but you have to at least give it to Lillard: He fucking nailed that part.

I love this show & sincerely think it is one of the most original and brilliant shows of all time.

Maybe Frank realized he can be a father figure to Mac. I hope he does (but would that break the show? For them to become better people?)

IT SUBVERTED MY EXPECTATIONS

I can’t see the leap you’re making based on a 5 minutes of sincerity among the vast hours of everything else the show has done. That you’re preparing to retroactively adjust everything you think about the show because of this scene and what you anticipate the future to hold?

You’re right, I used the wrong word there. But because of that reinforced absurdism, I don’t see how a sincere dance number falls outside of the absurdist realm given the context of it within the show’s universe.

To me, surrealism is the defining characteristic of the show to a large extent. And a tightly choreographed dance routine to come out to your father in prison? Check.

Felt that way about San Junipero.

If the audience can’t trust these guys after 13 seasons, they never will. 

I thought it worked, it took this show’s flair for over the top insanity and flipped it on its head. We’ve come to expect this show to wallow in the bloody excrement of human failure, so what could be more shocking after 13 seasons of said shit-rolling than a moment of actual goddamn grace? I’m not saying this should…

I think the show has set this up pretty well by showing how Dennis has exploited their psychological profiles for years. I feel a lot of sympathy for Dee and Mac and Charlie, just based on the psychology episode.

My wife and I cackled all the way through the final scene, but after about 15 seconds it was mostly out of pure joy. Sigur Ros, beautiful choreography, the realization this may be largely why McElhenney got ripped...we were laughing not so much because it was funny, but just so unexpectedly breathtaking. It definitely…

So I’m watching it, thinking the writing is maybe a tiny bit improved from the past couple of episodes, still feeling like I’m watching 1/4th of a real Sunny episode with Dennis “out of frame” and Charlie and Dee given one line each.

I think it’s kind of a cop out episode. It’s a beautiful dance and the message is a noble one (They didn’t even high horse by pointing out that all the straight people were doing the Pride float for the wrong reasons. You’ve forgotten about them by the end of the dance, so that’s worth noting that they didn’t go…

All I can say is that the “suspiciously well-designed float” was the one the show actually used for LA Pride.

...well, that was one of the most unexpectedly lovely episodes of TV I’ve ever had the privilege to watch live. Holy shit.

The BoJack writers really can cut to the bone with their satire, can’t they? The quote you mentioned at the top was so accurate, and biting. 

So, first I had the ‘this is out of character, he’s not that *kind* of abusive asshole’ reaction too. Then I thought ‘wait a minute, this is kind of what people always say about abusive men, even when the clear signs were there, I bet the show was going for that reaction, how clever.’ Then I thought yet again, and…

I disagree. BoJack has made progress over the course of the series and it’s showing. The problem is, he’s still on the emotional level of a teenager who learned everything about life from TV. And while he internalized that lesson - as evidenced by his speech in “Free Churro” - he never truly examined what he should do…

But this is how it works.