thegreatmango
TheGreatMango
thegreatmango

Well, I do. ;)

If you ask for my help you’ll get it.

Neither the Nordic model or full decriminalization are perfect, and I am well informed about the drawbacks of both. I support the Nordic model because I believe it to be the best option. Not because I believe it to be infallible.

I invite you to refute my statements with evidence.

I’m aware of that. What you posted was about trafficking. Not about pimps or Johns as you claimed.

As I’ve said, it’s an imperfect solution to an imperfect problem. On balance, I support the Nordic Model because it gets better results. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t have drawbacks. It’s a very complicated issue, and much of the sensationalist media coverage has been entirely uninterested in those complexities. For my

Got any stats to back that up?

Sigh. Listen, if you want to talk about this we can, but please have done some research. What you have copied and pasted does not remotely contradict what I said. Of course Amnesty are opposed to “human trafficking”. That doesn’t mean they don’t intend to decriminalize pimps and johns. Doing so is exactly what they

Amnesty are, of course, opposed to trafficking, but their position on this issue doesn’t address the complicated ways in which the consensual sex work industry overlaps with the nonconsensual sex work industry. Decriminalization of johns and pimps provides significant cover for abuse and trafficking. That’s the

No, it’s not. We agree. If you’re suggesting I have done so, perhaps you’d like to make a case for that claim?

You’ve misunderstood the controversy. Nobody is arguing that sex workers should be criminalized. Everybody engaged in this debate thinks sex workers should be protected. The controversy exists because Amnesty wants to decriminalize the purchase and pimping of sex workers. The critics of Amnesty’s proposal are in

Yes, they’re criminalized in the US, for example. When I say nobody wants them to be I mean nobody engaged in this debate. There’s no controversy about decrim for sex workers themselves. Everybody who is fighting over this issue agrees they should be protected. The argument is over pimps and johns exclusively. Amnesty

Absolutely. What critics of the Amnesty position advocate for is the ‘Nordic Model’, which does precisely what you’ve asked about. It’s the law in Sweden. You can read about it here: http://www.equalitynow.org/sites/default/…

There are specific studies that make these points, though I couldn’t find them on google when I looked just now. I’m trying to remember the authors names and if I can sourec them I’ll come back and reply again. In the meantime, here are a few links, just from a quick google search. There’s a lot been written about

No no. Please don’t be misled. Nobody wants to criminalize the women. The controversy is over the fact that Amnesty wish to decriminalize the purchase of sex, and grant rights to pimps. The one thing everybody in the human rights and sex work communities agree upon is that sex workers/sex trade victims should be free

No shit. Welcome to the real world.

No it’s not.

Exactly. And not only that... decriminalization basically provides a legitimate ‘shopfront’ for the backdoor trade.

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Listening to sex workers? You mean like these women? Maybe you’d like to listen to them.

No no. You’ve misunderstood. None of the critics of this move think sex workers themselves should be penalized. Everybody is for the decriminalization of sex workers. What’s at issue is the decriminalization of purchasers and pimps.