The 2012 was a huge step above the 2008-2011, and the 2018+ JL is another giant leap above the 2012+ JK. To me, it’s funny that they redid the interior and added the pentastar + 6 years of improvements/inflation, and the net MSRP impact was +$2,906. Then, for the new model w/ same engine but new chassis etc and 4…

The date argument applies to most cars, but I think the Wrangler is definitely a mix of time and the whole “Overlander” image being popular so Jeep is in full on gouge mode, as are those responsible for “Destination” charges. The look at MSRP below is just the beginning though - nearly all of the options packages got…

Much better explanation than mine!  But yes, that.

I’ll add to the other comments here - my understanding is that if you’re going through water/mud, at least with the JK Wrangler MT design, water could get into the transmission between the clutch and flywheel area, leading to premature wear / failures. The way to avoid this was not touch the clutch pedal when moving…

“According to the principles of math, that puts the premium total at $6,000 for the diesel, or only about $3,250 more than the optional 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 gas engine with the optional 8-speed auto. The new diesel engine makes 260 horsepower and a whopping 442 lb-ft of torque.”

I have a ‘16 WRX. For ‘17, the only change was auto up/down on the front passenger window. Can’t swap module, needs reprogramming too. For ‘18, they added back roof rack mounting points. I considered trading in/upgrading for this.

Some interior showings are just pathetic.

Did it fully penetrate the shell?  Could it have been some sort of antenna/other device hole, where they removed the device/antenna and just left it there?

I’m right there as well - the majority of my driving is highway / straight, and more power = more fun in that situation. Corners are great, but the sensation of being hammered back into your seat when you hit the gas pedal is tough to beat.

HAHA! I came here to post this (not my car)

The shape actually gave them great visibility and legroom. I would never drive one personally, but a 6'5" relative of mine swore by his 1st gen Prius and said it was one of the best fitting cars he’d driven.

I figured you might have a connection to FCA.  Agreed, there wouldn’t be as many Jeeps on the road if all experiences were like that one.  On the flipside, we have had great runs with a number of Grand Cherokees.  

It all worked out in the end, loving the WRX and in ~2-3 years I’ll be ready to pick up a JLU or Gladiator once the kinks are worked out.

FCA Corporate may not, but individual dealers will try to. They may give in, or not fight to the point of litigation though. Having owned a lifted Wrangler, my local dealer was trying to blame everything on the fact that it had a 2.5" AEV lift installed by a Jeep dealer who was also an AEV authorized dealer.

What I find frustrating is that Jeep posts images of lifted/modified Jeeps off-roading all over its social media pages, but would almost 100% deny your warranty claim if you brought one of those Jeeps to a dealer.

First Model Year FCA Product! At least the frame welds aren’t breaking yet?

Eh... the reverse wireless charging is gimmicky but also has legitimate uses. I travel a lot for work, and it would be great to plug in my iPhone and let it fast charge while charging my airpods on it. That would get me to upgrade to the wireless charging case for them. I also have a work iPhone. Being able to charge…

This is a perfect case for a lightly used Jeep Wrangler or Grand Cherokee.  People of ALL wealth levels appreciate both cars.

The Sport S would be my sweet spot, but I cannot get over how much I dislike the halogen fender lights. The LEDs are only available on Overland/Sahara and Rubicon models for both JL/Gladiator, and the Sport trims don’t even include the wiring required to retrofit them later.

The best part of this is that on the rare occasion I actually pay with cash, the extra $0.02 get dropped on the counter or left with the cashier.