The difference there is that you can buy that F150 for ~$12k off MSRP out the door (we just did that on a $45k MSRP) but the R is going to go for close to sticker.

Have they shortened the shifter throw? Was about a mile on the JK.

I may be wrong, but don’t most shocks not rebound after compression? Isn’t that the job of the springs?

This is just a knockoff of the Pizza Steel and not proved much better. But the original.

This is just a knockoff of the Pizza Steel and not proved much better. But the original.

I’m right there with you on warranty.

Haha! I fall into the “care about my clutch” camp... most of the time. It’s a ‘16, I was just using the Car & Driver number, as on their most recent one they were only able to achieve 5.5s (were around ~5s on the long term one though now that I look back at it more).

Check out the recent Wheeler Dealers episode where they redid one!

It’s most noticeable when I’m just putting around town, especially if I stop on a hill. Once I’m actually into boost it’s not really noticeable so that would make sense

Yup. Paid a hair over $29k for mine before taxes/fees, traded for $25k with 47k miles after 2.5 years. Had a lift and some rims from a rubicon but was otherwise stock.

Mine was a special one... I bought it brand new (2014) and barely made it a full 5k oil change interval (I chose 5k with penzoil platinum full synthetic) during my 47k miles of ownership without a warranty issue.

Faux-Pro Tip:

Faux-Pro Tip:

It’s illegal for a real estate agent (at least in MA) to tell you anything about demographics. They are only allowed to point you toward resources where you might research them on your own.

I guess to clarify my position more - it’s not so much the 0-60 time I care about, but how that correlates to the real world ~20-90 and everything in between.

I disagree. I think 4 seconds or less then maybe it gets fuzzier, but there’s a huge difference between 4 and 5.5 seconds. With the exception of the latest Mustangs/Camaros, breaking the 4 second barrier usually takes a lot of money. 5.5 seconds is just a hair faster than my WRX, and I’d love something faster.

I think a chunk of why they like financing is the cut they can make. With my last 2 purchases, the dealer actually beat the rate I came in with. By financing through them, they get paid a chunk of $$ by the banks. In the past, it was more gouging people by offering crazy rates on financing.

Personal finance sites are very divided on this, but for me any car interest rate below 2% screams “Finance it!” and sometimes that extends up to under 3% (my first car purchase).

Valid point - same goes for Range Rover’s that count as “work trucks”

Yup. Mine was a special case, definitely a lemon. Extended warranty bought through wranglerforum paid for itself ~1500 miles into it.

Valid point, especially if they can write it off as a business expense.

The “people with money put big down payments” line isn’t necessarily correct. People with money usually fall into 2 camps - buy the car cash, or if there is an attractive financing rate that is lower than investment returns, put the minimum down.