Definitely a 2-stroke single. Sounds surprisingly like a dirt bike.

Basically everything prior to 1915.

I refer you to my second paragraph.

No, my point was you can't claim that 57 cents was too much or too little based solely on the relative cost. It comes down to a business decision that neither you or I are fully privy to. Maybe 57 cents per car was enough that they couldn't pay their employees. Are you saying you want to make people go hungry? Maybe…

Read the entire response before responding please. I don't like repeating myself. And I do empathize. That doesn't mean I'm blind to the facts. And again, you don't seem to understand that it wasn't just 57 cents. It's not the change from your sofa.

What if it was $200 per car? Or 22 cents? Or 20,000,000?

Nice rebuttal.

No, if my loved one died as a result, I'd be pissed at them for their inability too. I'd be sad to have lost them, but I'd be pissed. And again, the car didn't take their lives, they died as a result of a car accident that may have been prevented by many factors.

Before you decide to make this a decidedly personal attack, you should take into account that I've taken up this point more than once on this site. I believe that personal responsibility, like wearing seatbelts, is important. Airbags are a secondary restraint system, not a primary. And as for losing power steering…

If one of my family members was mid corner and their engine shut off, they'd continue the turn with no power steering. Because that is what you do. You continue to drive the car. When the engine shuts off you don't lose steering and brakes, you lose power assist. I'm not a good driver automatically, my parents…

Actually, it is pretty easy to blame the owners. Car shuts off while driving, turn car back on. Kind of basic. But I do actually blame our current system of driver education (NHTSA) more than anything.

We'll see, because this looks fairly callous.

I'm Orloving it?

GT-R has a notoriously grumpy transmission. Repeatable testing isn't going to be its strong suit, especially in the guise of a tired press car.

So the GT-R goes down to the Porsche, and you feel it necessary to suddenly post? That was the straw that broke the Camel's back? Not the fact that everyone else has been lampooning the GT-R for being an out of date bloated pig for a few years now?

In all fairness, with the new european noise regulation, this is actually pretty loud.

You really might want to update your info: http://ratings.jdpower.com/automotive/ind….

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I have no idea how this is going to play out legally, but no Republican is going to look bad spending life under siege by the unions.

They just posted a full report from the dealership end. I'd be curious to see your comments on the paperwork provided. It looks above board to me, but I was never a service advisor, I just worked with a lot of them.