The scary part is that’s more power than the gas version with the CVT. They are way underpowered.

You’re not wrong. Ma has a ‘19 Forester, and while it’s not anything to write home about, it does the trick and the seats are comfortable. I’m glad the Forester update is quieter (so say Subaru and the reviews) and I’m hoping that with the hybrid powertrain, the Auto Stop is less jerky not as intrusive into the cabin…

Friend cross-shopped this and the Prologue.

Back in the late 80s/early 90s some guy in my town had a notchback Trans Am like this one. If I recall correctly only about 700 were made. I always thought it was an improvement over the big glass hatch.

It’s weird to deliberately hitch your wagon to a dying species.  

Either the Honda or T0yota is the right answer.

All this tells me is Honda needs to build a new S2000 like yesterday.

Get a Prius.

But it still can haul things that a truck should haul, just not as much of it. It’s not a crazy concept, that not everyone needs the ability to carry full 4x8 sheets of plywood, or two full pallets of stuff on the regular. Hell on that point, I owned and ran a residential construction business for years out of a short…

Folks. If people don’t want minivans, they don’t want minivans. If they want to deal with the extra difficulty of loading kids into an SUV, that’s their perogative.

Came here to say this. The Promaster was an unfortunate inclusion - it’s designed around pure utility, and therefore can’t be ‘ugly’ (even with unfortunate headlight design), as long as it’s useful. It’s science.

I learned on my mothers then 10 year old rusted out 1984 Subaru GL. By that point, she didn’t really care what happened to it. I lived across the street from a park with a large parking lot. I’d hobble it over there by myself and then buck the shit out of it until I got used to the clutch. Wasn’t pretty, but I learned…

Yeah. I learned to drive a manual on a Ford Ranger my dad had bought entirely to tow his boat to the lake. It was only a few years old at the time, but the base (ish. It was a V6 4x4) Rangers back then were cheap. Certainly massively cheaper than other manual car he had at the time - a 911 Turbo.

Excellent choice. Very rare. No one even knows it existed. Like a mature WRX. The manual version is actually 200lbs lighter than the automatic.

I forgot you could get a manual in this gen. Nice suggestion.

Clown cars are supposed to look like that. 

I drive an EV daily. I have to say you’re right though. Without the turbocharged crack and blat, it’s missing something.

Same looking, but totally not the same. ZDX was based on the Acura MDX (& Honda Pilot) platform. Crosstour was based on the Accord platform.

They likely just haven’t announced it and want to milk the regular Integra for sales first.

They’re obviously going to at some point, and have more or less confirmed that it’s coming. I’m guessing we’ll start seeing teasers in early 2023. They don’t want to step on the CTR’s toes.