Correct, but didnt you just described the average consumer? Are you buying one of these? Cause the average consumer will probably never touch a track in their life.

But thats my argument further down, and how many times do you see “Class leading” in the luxury world? Pull up Mercedes website and I bet you can find it used at least 5 times in a minute. Acura is not going to touch Merc or BMW or Audi or even Lexus now in level of refinement, so what do they have? Aggressive styling…

Yep its single because they had fitment and water intrusion issues when it was twins on the passenger side.

Disagree a sports sedan competing against with BMW and Mercedes needs to be in the 400ish hp range, which knowing Honda I actually suspect is the case. (2.0T accords making 260hp at the hub and 1.5t Civics 170hp at the hub)

Is the 355hp enough? Also Honda likes to under report numbers, so does it feel like more? (Though it’s a press car)

I mean at least Lordstown is trying and probably did the right thing not blocking a critical route. As that would've been a PR nightmare and everyone on here would be ripping them a new one.

Agreed with the avalanche. It was sooo cool you could take off the back. Was also built on a stout frame with the possibility of a 2500 with an 8.1l v8....

LS was initially interesting but called out for copying E39 styling and piss poor reliability. Ask an owner about replacing the fuel pump...

Not sure about that as I think the Escala is up there and so is the Mazda RX.

Ohh you mean you finally is understanding why everyone has been chastising them about joint ventures? I knew Toyota is know for taking a long time but damn

Apparently race manufacturers can’t use 12hr race data for other tracks?

An new to us at the time Rusty 1994 Bravada with 220k miles from Ohio to OBX and back

Yeah agree over reaction with comically dumb responses from Tesla-stans. Quick tap on the brakes is all that was needed.

Great Idea, basically Iron man but probably one of the worst executions in Video game history

Not sure which Wyler you went to (Canal Winchester is up here) but up in Cbus we now have Marky Mark Chevy dealerships, so maybe next time you might get better or even “Good Vibrations”?

I maybe in the minority here the way it sounds, but Ive always researched the hell out of the car im buying. Mileage factored, vehicle options, and so on. If you dont have at least 7-10 good photos of the car im not coming in cause to me youre hiding something or dont want to sell it

300 mile real world with 5 min to 80%. There are going to be people who can not charge their cars at home. Apartments, duplexes, and so on. And sales people who can drive 300 before lunch are going to fill up charging stations if the stations infrastructure does not drastically increase with the increase of EVs

GM in the late 80s and early 90s had some interesting designs. Think my Favorite is the Box wheels on the Cavilers

But better chassis/handling doesn’t sell, ask the Camaro. And understated doesn’t sell, look at BMW.

HP is king in the US. Ask dodge, it needed to be a detuned LT5. That motor/blower is just sitting around right now with 750+hp. But 650 hp to 668hp is just powertrain updates and with retooling of the Alpha platform, my argument still stands that this is just an update with a badge change. This is just a CTS-V refresh…